All fair enough. I guess the only thing is whether he's had the chance to 'do' anything - he's just had a couple of bids that haven't been successful, so given that he doesn't have millions to invest (give away) then I'm not sure what more he could have done.

To be clear, I'm not a cheerleader for him or anything like that, I just don't see that he's done anything particularly wrong. Yet!

And like you, I want the best for the club and will give the benefit of the doubt to whoever wins the new club. I am definitely one of those that the RFL is referring to in their tender document who will transfer allegiance to a new club, provided that it has Bradford in the name...

In League Express “Uncle Tony” made it clear he would help Warrington, then Rochdale, then maybe Bradford in that order. That didn’t sound like a particularly promising route to players.

Madjeski was mentioned with Irvine originally?

I think everyone is in agreement Odsal needs to be addressed, it is done as far as a Sports stadium goes.
The site needs developing with a new stadium there or over the road anyone that is putting a bid together and the RFL /Council must surely know that.

A newly formed business can't crack straight on with maintaining the place its shot at.

Exactly this. And im sure whoever gets the gig will say the/ right things on day one, competive squad/re-engage with fans/spend wisely etc etc. But we've heard it all before and the devil is in the detail, and like you say who is really funding the operation and to what level.

The new owners can only be judged on their actions after day one i guess. At this point im still just hoping we get a new owner and the rfl don't "help" us too much to pre guarantee admin 4, the sequel no one wants.

You are clearly going to need to bring players in. Do you think that the RFL should relax the maximum of 5 players on DR or loan for the new club?

We clearly need a better idea of where we are before we allow you to entice us into asking the RFL to change the rules for us. We have enough hair shirts as it is.

i'm sure they'll bend the rules for us. After all we are their favourites.

They've done the Bulls so many favours over the years I'd hate for the Club to get on their wrong side!

Jeez, they do that and there'll be a full on out break of rabies in parts of Halifax, Fartown and Wakefield...

Yes you would.

Seriously though, it's a real factor. Look at the Brand thread and see to how many people the name "Bulls" means something and for how many people "Northern" does. Run that poll again now and see how it goes, and ask what accounts for the difference.

More rules to be broken is more sticks to beat the fans with. And I for one am past sick of it.

Of course, it's a tiny thing. But my real point is I think (and it is just a feeling on my part) that opinions have changed here on this forum and that it's a symptom of something else. that's nothing to do with the name.

I see Halifax based w@nker Matthew Shaw is once again trying to remind everyone which ones of our players are currently available for signing. rlhttp://www.totalrl.com/bradfords-squad-look-2017-previous-players-stay/rl

My reasoning for a change back to Northern..

Is a clean start to forget the train wreck that has been the last 10 years.

The Bulls early period was super something to have witnessed and been a part of.
But it's time to look to the future and earn our "big club" status, as Leon said we are no longer super league we have to get there, new club, new name, new start.