Agreed. It came across much better when I said it to my brother on leaving the ground..... I think that sardonic doesn't work the same here.

Agree here. His job was to get us up at first time of asking and all signs point towards him failing (barring a miracle). I've questioned some tactics and squad selection but given it mainly a pass as "we might come good in the 8s" - well today we didn't. If we stay in the Championship, nothing this season or elsewhere in his coaching career says to me he can get us up next year. Lowes has 5 games to save his job IMO.

Today just goes to show the difference in class between the very worst of superleague, which we have been all season, and the top of the championship. The players you have, bar maybe a couple at best, are playing at that level for a reason. They are players who either got you relegated last season (below a Wakefield side that before this season kicked off we all thought was worse on paper than this one), have dropped down as they haven't been able to get a top flight club for a reason or have never played successfully at the higher level. It is easy to get carried away when you are beating inferior part-time sides most weeks but the reality is this country has few real quality players and not enough regular intensity below the elite level to prepare for the step up and most of the better players are already in the top flight. As a club Wakefield don't deserve to survive this year due to extracting the urine all season but the rules mean we likely will as there just isn't anybody good enough to replace us, including Leigh. That is a worry for the depth of RL in this country as much as anything else.

Under the current system the championship is a pointless 23 game preseason which offers no preparation for the middle 8's in terms of speed and intensity.

Very disappointing afternoon both on and off the pitch for me and my family.

We went into the game as slight underdogs and if I'm honest I suspected Wakefield might find a performance today. But I also expected us to come and really put a big effort in and make a real game of it. That unfortunately wasn't the case, the 1st half really was woeful and we made Wakefield look like SL champions. I can't remember anyone once putting T Smith under any sort kick pressure, he had an eternity of time with the ball in hand and he punished. Our kicking game was woeful without Gaskell pulling the strings and the penalty by Siejka that didn't find touch was just pure laziness.

Credit to Wakefield, they played us off the park today and showed we'll need to work a hell of a lot harder if we want to pick up the victories required against SL opposition. Praying that Gaskell isn't season ending otherwise sadly I fear the dream is over for 2015.

Re off the field disappointment was the racist chanting by a group of Wakefield fans, there is no place for that in our game. I expect there might be some repocussions for the club, particularly if it was picked up by the Sky microphones.

Also whilst I expect to hear the odd bit of swearing here and there at a rugby match it was OTT today. I do wish our fans would drop the 'you're all one family song' too as it really doesn't do us any favours. Even when I went for a HT slash I had to put up with some popped up numpty in a Wakefield shirt goading Bulls fans. I'll have to think twice about taking my family back to Belle Vue if this is accepted behaviour at their ground.

See I sort of agree with the sentiment, but I can't fully. If we'd played at our absolute best today and you'd put 40 past us I'd say fair cop to this but the Bulls didn't turn up - and similarly if you put 40 past Leigh next week. The difference between the best in the Championship and SL isn't just down to just one game, we can only really decide that in about 7 weeks time when the full system takes it course . Of course there is a huge chance you will be proved entirely correct.

Before todays game I hoped that Brian Smith could no longer weave his magic as he did with us in '96.

I also hoped Anthony Mullally wouldn't be as good as he was while playing on loan for us...

Didn't take long to have my (our) hopes and dreams shattered there did it?!

That was a definite case of Championship style rugby versus SL style - a very wide gap.

Brain Smith has his team playing with pace, power and commitment, half back pairings took us apart and Mullally repeatedly smashed though out line ...

There were some strange selection decisions today and it cost us dearly - we appear to be a one man team when we lose Gaskell - and we cannot afford to be at this stage...

Bitterly disappointing day - and I have to say - full credit to Brian Smith - his team were superb today and he definitely hasn't lost his touch.

I am already convinced we won't gain promotion - there is more work to do yet - and maybe some tough decisions to be made at the top!

And yes Bully Boxer - on top of all that - you are correct about some of the "banter"

It's still early days but you might well be right, best hope may be that by the end of 7 games one of the Championship clubs is up to speed to give a SL club a game. Bradford are much better than they showed today but whether their best is good enough remains to be seen.

Have to say that's by far the most sensible and accurate post by a Wakey fan that I've seen posted on our board

I suspect many of us had a dread fear that today's scenario might just unfold as it did.

Whilst we clung to the hope that it would all somehow 'come right' just at the right time (i.e today), we've seen too many sub-standard performances this season to have more than a forlorn hope that this would actually come to fruition. Squeaking home by one score against Batley or Dewsbury simply does lead to any other conclusion. And the constant mantra of 'it will be different when it matters' looks a bit hollow now.

The sad thing is that, should we end up in the Champ next year as looks likely, it us going to be even harder. We're still going to have the problem of a 23 game pre-season against mainly part-time teams with referees who let the games go at a snail pace. A few if our better players might well depart (although who would want them in today's showing?). Worse still, how on earth are Green and Ferres going sell us a season ticket offer at anywhere near this seasons prices?

Very depressing

Shocked to see that result today. I honestly thought that Wakefield, despite their recent acquisitions, were the vulnerable SL team in this competition. I think your result today probably sums up the chances of we Championship clubs, to gain promotion. Of course, I could be proved completely wrong when we play Salford tomorrow, and Wakefield next week, but I doubt it!

On the positive side, one of the Championship teams has to finish at least fifth, and then get a one-off crack at beating a SL team. Here's hoping!!