I think Hudds over-performed last season, but they are just a back-up hooker/HB short of a top 3 team. I don't know if Wire are building to a end of season climax but they have far too many top players, & a top coach, to be mid-table. If a Yorkshire team isn't going to win it I wouldn't mind Saints, otherwise Brown could forever be labelled a nearly man, & I quite like him as a coach.

Before easter having Leeds, Wigan, Wire & Saints one after the other plenty of people on here said we would lose them all so surely even 1 win out of 4 has surpassed peoples expectations on here, we are just unlucky that Wakey have produced some results,

As for the Magic weekend, Huddersfield really struggled at the start against London, if we can get most players back and firing and get some stability in the squad no reason we cant pick up 2 points this weekend and get some momentum building up to the "must win" wakey game,

The season is not over until its mathematically not possible to stay up COYB!!

We're still the only team to have beaten Leeds this season though, so how are we 'a lot short' of Leeds?

Well, the predictions spreadsheet indicates that we are going down ... on points difference.

Here is the latest version:

Wigan ....47
Leeds ....42
St. Helens... 42
Warrington ...33
Hudds ...32
Castleford ....25
Hull FC ....25
Widnes ....25
Salford .... 24
Catalans ...20
Wakefield ...19
Hull KR ...18
Bradford ...18
London ...2

and we are of course a point effectively worse off than KR as we regrettably have had too many shellackings.

Of course OTOH that if accurate would mean that a mere 2 points back on appeal would relegate HKR.

18???? You do realise you only get 2 for
a win don't you?????

Those points totals are impossible !!!!!

It's like John Major bringing back the cones hot line.

Yeah, they say he used to answer the phone himself...they say.. I think the cones hotline was the moment he lost it.

18 points? I assume that is including the RFL not only giving us 6 points back but then another 6 for good behaviour?

No, I think it's something worked out with FA's relegation spreadsheet - though I'd guess the 18 points is something related to some dodgy conditional formatting or badly set up macros rather than anything else. Well, I'm hoping that's what it is...

I believe a recent survey has shown that the most commonly uttered final words are now " Well the spread sheet said it was right"

iirc FA did say that some of his predictions could be seen as controversial. and he kept the spreadsheet so simple that any errors would be obvious. So it is down to what he thinks v what anyone else thinks, in the absence of the link to his sheet, looking a the fixtures list i would go for 12 more points myself, but a remote probability for 18 - ie we sign two experienced fit meat and potato props, all injuries clear up instantly and we get no more, and all injured players hit match sharp form and fitness in their first game back... and Gale plays consistently well (tho a the preceeding conditions would help that).

The "Fat Lady" has sung, packed her bags and moved on to the next venue I'm afraid! Too much time has passed with us in special measures, limbo and unable to strengthen the squad. Miracles and rain dances won't help us now, the only luck we get is "Bad".

With the squad we had after the Hull friendly I was feeling quite optimistic, but loosing the two props and Sammut - as I am sure our friends at Wakefield knew made our task infinitely harder. Still we must live in hope while there is still a chance.