Fair enough, from what I saw it looked forward, without having the time or inclination to go look into it as much as you have.

I'm confused what you mean by I know Lulia was away by a mile though? I agree Lulia would have scored, I've never said he wouldn't. My point was the ref called it a knock-on therefore giving leeds a free play, meaning they perhaps wouldn't have made the pass that Lulia intercepted if they hadn't been awarded a free play.

Wether Silverwood got the correct call becomes irrelevant as they can't go to the video ref after awarding leeds a free play when the players will obviously take a more risky approach with the knowledge whatever happens they get the ball back. To suddenly go to the video ref after telling the Leeds players this would be ridiculous. It's not their fault Silverwood got the call correct or not, in the context of what happened and the call silverwood made you could not suddenly reverse that knowing the implications.

Addy knocked on. Simple as. No need to check it.

Cheers.


Good point, and an example of unforeseen consequences. If Ablett (?) did indeed only throw a pass that he wouldn't have thrown if he was not sure it was a free play, then I would agree with you. I don't think on balance that was the case, as the ref's call came as he was already shaping to pass, but I can't say it wasn't, just that it didn't look that way.


Probably so. That's totally unsatisfactory position that this ridiculous and unnecessary new rule puts us in.

So we can agree, whilst the knock down may not have gone forward but due to the rules of the game, (which I amn't endorsing or agreeing with by the way), Silverwood couldn't have gone to the video ref after making the call he did?

It would be like saying to a defending team the opposition have knocked on, and the defence stops and they let a player run through and score making no attempt to tackle him, then suddenly the ref changing his mind and going to the video ref realising it wasn't a knock-on in the first place. Once a decision of that nature has been made you can't ignore it after.

Have I been living in a box? What is a "free play"?

Careful....

Erm yes... you have.

You surely must have seen teams 'chance their arm' with a free play after a knock on? Basically means that a team can try a risky play after the opposition have knocked on and if they don't score/gain advantage/ or if they knock on or lose possession then play is brought back to the original knock on.

While I am sure it was a knock on & the ref got it spot on I do wonder what would have happened if he had gone to the screen. As Purtell goes down the wing Blythe (IIRC) is in (distant) support; McGuire grabs him from behind by the collar & hauls him to the ground. Definitely a yellow card. That's twice Danny.

I personally am not a fan of the 'free play' option... and it doesn't seem many fans are. To me it all looks a bit rushed and panicky when a team gets a free play!

The majority I have seen seem to go along the lines of well we will get it back anyways so lets boot it down field and all rush for it and hope we get it if not scrum down... which can be exciting but when its on Sky I think to most it will like a bit silly! Just IMO... I can see what the RFL were trying to do with it though...

As for the Addy incident... I don't think its a knock on but we shot ourselves in the foot in the first half so it would probably have been too much to come back! In all its not the worst call a ref has made against any team

I quite like the free play, mainly because it confuses the hell out of the oldies who are struggling to keep up with the rules. Quite funny listening to them going berserk at the 'stupid player'..

Whether it was right or not you got a try on the back of McGuire and JP for that matter getting penalised when it was clear McGuires leg was being clamped by your player and he was trying to pull it out and when JP had his hand clamped by a Bulls player only to be penalised again. Both resulted in tries to you.
So all in all it leveled out.
I also thought Bailey had a try disallowed when it looked to me the ball was on the line.

That is only because you haven't looked at my conclusive proof that it wasn't




I don't know what is the matter with the current McGuire, he seems to have turned into something of a nasty piece of work and unfortunately that would just be par for the course for him nowadays.