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| I'm sorry I've upset so many people. The Chairman's great, the coach is superb, why do the rest of SL not understand this and let us win.
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| Quote: rugbyreddog "I'm sorry I've upset so many people. The Chairman's great, the coach is superb, why do the rest of SL not understand this and let us win.'"
The point is, no-one was saying the chairman was great, bad, average or whatever. If Hood went who would take control of the club and sustain it?
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| Quote: AaronBull "The point is, no-one was saying the chairman was great, bad, average or whatever. If Hood went who would take control of the club and sustain it?'"
Peter Hood has been very clear on making the club self sustainable and not having a board of directors or individual having to support it financially.
The implication behind wanting to replace Mr Hood is that he's holding the first team back with this penny pinching/financially responsible (delete as per prejudice) attitude (look at the number of comments about MacNamara being the cheap option and the number of times the cost of sacking him is brought up). So a serious question for any one wanting Hood replaced is would you like your club to be dependant on the whims of a principal investor?
If you think he's right in making the club self sustaining clearly a important part of his plan, and one of the criteria he's going to apply to any appointment, is does any new coach agree with the long term development plan that aims to remove a reliance on imports (star signing only with the bulk of the squad home grown) which is likely to be a more efficient use of the salary (both cap and available monies) but take much longer.
MacNamara has clearly brought into this and this will only strengthen his position.
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| If anybody wants to read my original post with regards to getting rid of Mr Hood you will see that it is not aimed at getting rid of Hood, it is simply a device to get rid of Macca.
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| Quote: rugbyreddog "If anybody wants to read my original post with regards to getting rid of Mr Hood you will see that it is not aimed at getting rid of Hood, it is simply a device to get rid of Macca.'"
But what if Hood decided it wasn't worth the effort and did go? After all he does all this for no reward.
Unlike head coaches there aren't a posse of club chairman hanging around wanting to appply for the job.
I'm sure Hood would be happy to hand over the reigns to someone who came in wanting to by him out. Unfortunately we've never been able to attract anyone with any real cash to back the club in the boardroom. This goes back years.
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| I've said all along, despite what some may think, that the current squad of players is capable enough, but any skill, tenacity and will to win is being slowly strangled out of them by a sub-standard coach. He simply has to go.
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| Quote: Bullseye "Fancy buying him out?'"
How much is the club (shares) worth? Does Caisley still have a large interest? What is current turnover like? With a new ground what will future turnover be like?
This might be a good time for someone to buy in
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| Quote: Ewwenorfolk "average age of our squad is 23. Including players like Olbison, Donaldson etc. (the ones with squad numbers.) Without these its around 26/27.'"
Are they in the squad or not?
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| Quote: af "The sad thing is some people actually think this.'"
Totally agree, although I agree Hood should act, the guy deserves a medal for getting us into the Black.
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| I voted no but it was a marginal decision.
I don't know enough about the workings of the club to know how "sustainable" the efforts of Hood et al are regarding ensuring the survival financially, but surely getting rid of the coach at this stage in a season that looks increasingly like it should be (on the field) written off would be financially damaging.
Of course I'm also not privy to any moves regarding a viable replacement and whether they would have any cash to make the playing squad their own - I suspect not given what was reportedly said at the fans forum etc.
What I'm trying to say is that although Plan A obviously hasn't worked this season, I'm not sure there is a Plan B (or whether we could finance one) and that worries me more.
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| Regrettably my answer is YES.
I have stood by Macca for long enough but enough is enough.
We have had to listen to same tosh week after week about 'nearly being there', 'a few things to work on', 'take some positives out of today' and 'we just need to cut out the errors' etc. etc. etc.
The fact is that, week after week, we still make the same unecessary unforced errors, coughing the ball up too easily to the opposition on tackle two or three.
We must also be the MOST INEFFECTIVE and LEAST CREATIVE team in Super League when near to the opposition line, if the forwards can't get over by brute force then we are snookered, in the main our halves are clueless.
Unfortunately the above ultimately now has to be put down to rank bad coaching, we have been working on things since the first day of the season and if anything it has got worse.
CONCLUSION : Yes Times Up!
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| Quote: Sexual Deviant "... any skill, tenacity and will to win is being slowly strangled out of them by a sub-standard coach. ...'"
What?
Mac [istrangles[/i their "skill"? He is strangling their "will to win"??? They would be more tenacious, but for him??????
How does this work, then? Jeffries has great skill really, and would display it all the btime, but instead makes at least 6 MAJOR ricks against HKR but it isn't his fault, as McNamara had somehow leeched the skill that would otherwise have made them all perfect moves out of him?
They get in front in games by a decent margin, eg CAs, but then at half time McNamara strangles this apparent will to win such that they come out strangled and will lose?
Sounds pretty barking to me, and that's regardless of what standard coach he is or isn't.
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| Quote: Bulldozer "I voted no but it was a marginal decision.
I don't know enough about the workings of the club to know how "sustainable" the efforts of Hood et al are regarding ensuring the survival financially, but surely getting rid of the coach at this stage in a season that looks increasingly like it should be (on the field) written off would be financially damaging.'"
Whether McNamara leaves now or the end of the season the club would have to pay him off as his contract runs until the end of 2010. I'm not sure attendances wouldn't look very healthy if McNamara sees out his contract given the record so far. It depends on what projections Hood can make and whether the club can survive on lower crowds. Then again there may be a miracle and we'll transform into a top 5 club next year and all will be well. It's looking unlikely in my book.
Quote: Bulldozer "Of course I'm also not privy to any moves regarding a viable replacement and whether they would have any cash to make the playing squad their own - I suspect not given what was reportedly said at the fans forum etc.'"
None of us have that kind of inside info but I hope the board is at least investigating possible options. Given that several high earners are leaving I'd suggest there is room for manouvre in the cap for any incoming coach but time is of the essence as deals are being done now.
Quote: Bulldozer "What I'm trying to say is that although Plan A obviously hasn't worked this season, I'm not sure there is a Plan B (or whether we could finance one) and that worries me more.'"
I can see where you're coming from but what worries me is that we defer the decision until the end of next year and suffer another poor season that sees us finish lower in the table and lose more fans and have even less cash. When do you decide enough is enough? I know of a number of season ticket holders won't be renewing their deals while McNamara remains head coach. If you doubt we could finance a plan B now it may be even more dfifficult if present downward trends are allowed to continue.
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "What?
Mac [istrangles[/i their "skill"? He is strangling their "will to win"??? They would be more tenacious, but for him??????
How does this work, then? Jeffries has great skill really, and would display it all the btime, but instead makes at least 6 MAJOR ricks against HKR but it isn't his fault, as McNamara had somehow leeched the skill that would otherwise have made them all perfect moves out of him?
They get in front in games by a decent margin, eg CAs, but then at half time McNamara strangles this apparent will to win such that they come out strangled and will lose?
Sounds pretty barking to me, and that's regardless of what standard coach he is or isn't.'"
OK then clever ar$e, let's say instead that the players aren't trying and are playing to get the coach the sack. Is that what you'd rather believe?
Or could it just be that some of the squad were more than reasonable players at their previous clubs but are all of a sudden going backwards, downhill with the wind behind them? You mention Jeffries, he's a prime example.
Or maybe some other squad members were no more than slightly above average at their previous clubs, but with some expert coaching could improve sufficiently enough to be considered first team picks? Remember how good we were at that a few years ago?
I don't know if Bradford are any different to any other SL team, but does the coach have a week to work on problems? Does he have his assistants to provide another angle? Do his training drills ever change? Does he ever take his players to one side and say "[iThis is where you're going wrong, let's try something different[/i"?
I seriously don't believe he does. Of course the players aren't completely blame-free, but this clueless goon has had them doing the same thing almost week in, week out for 2 and a bit years.
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| Quote: Sexual Deviant "
I seriously don't believe he does. Of course the players aren't completely blame-free, but this clueless goon has had them doing the same thing almost week in, week out for 2 and a bit years.'"
* wonders whether the same condemnation will be handed out *
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