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| Quote: tigertot "Unless someone produces the rules saying he can't ask the VR for confirmation of his view whether reviewing a try or not I, & virtually everyone who isn't a Bulls fan, is satisfied with how Ganson handled it. Raynor would have walked without the technology, so why not use it for avoidance of any doubt unless it is ultra vires?'"
But isn't the use of the VR restricted to specific items not just what the Ref asks for, an example being their inability to rule on forward passes.
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| Right or wrong we could see RFL having no choice but to give it sending off sufficient or even rescinded because the letter of the law hasn't been followed.
There will be no one but the referee to blame for that
And this post puts the incident to one side, not commenting on that!
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| Would appear he's got a two match ban and fine
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| Quote: sparkeyfc "Would appear he's got a two match ban and fine
Source?
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| its up on the Bulls site now
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| A harsh punishment IMO. Does Raynor have a poor disciplinary record?
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| I was wondering the same thing, checked the Sky stats and they've got him with 6 yellows since 2003. Guess that wouldn't show if he'd been cited though.
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| The ban is laughable. Should have been sending off sufficient. If he'd stayed on the field I could have understood a ban.
And tigs, the point I was merely trying to make was I'd never seen such an occurrence before. Can it be done? And can he scrutinise it at such lengths? It's slightly different to scoring a try.
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| So it looks like once again, we have broken new ground, as we always like to at the Bulls. First team to have a player sent off on the say so of a VR. Well as always, I will look forward to this new innovation being introduced into every game. It's going to slow the game down a lot though, with the VR being called in to rule on every high tackle. Or is it only going to be on every high tackle where a player is, or pretends to be, knocked out? What are the new guidelines? It will be interesting to find out.
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| 2 games is more than I expected, but it could have been worse. If it had been a ball & all tackle & the tackler's arm bounced off the ball into the face of the carrier & knocked him out cold there would have been no argument about the red card or subsequent ban. As it was Raynor was nowhere near the ball. The suggestion the VR got Raynor sent off is cheap & laughable. But don't let that stop your fear of persecution.
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| To be honest, I am pretty sure I have seen games on Sky where the ref takes advice in his ear from the video ref before showing his card. I suspect without the video ref there the incident would have ended up on report since the contact at full speed didn't look worthy of a red card.
It's a funny old league we play in. The joke concept that is the Magic weekend that interferes with the fairness of a regular season where each team faces each other twice in the league. Then some games refereed under different different circumstances. Sooner or later the RFL need to either follow the NRL and video ref EVERY SL match or scrap the whole concept until they can afford to have every side playing under the same conditions.
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| Quote: Bully_Boxer "To be honest, I am pretty sure I have seen games on Sky where the ref takes advice in his ear from the video ref before showing his card. I suspect without the video ref there the incident would have ended up on report since the contact at full speed didn't look worthy of a red card.
It's a funny old league we play in. The joke concept that is the Magic weekend that interferes with the fairness of a regular season where each team faces each other twice in the league. Then some games refereed under different different circumstances. Sooner or later the RFL need to either follow the NRL and video ref EVERY SL match or scrap the whole concept until they can afford to have every side playing under the same conditions.'"
Don't be daft!
How could they find new and novel ways to disadvantage Bradford if they properly levelled the playing field?
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| Quote: Adeybull "Don't be daft!
How could they find new and novel ways to disadvantage Bradford if they properly levelled the playing field?'"
Give us Richard Silverwood every other ga... oh... hang on.
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| Quote: tigertot " The suggestion the VR got Raynor sent off is cheap & laughable. But don't let that stop your fear of persecution.'"
So at full speed, live, you thought red card? You were in a very small minority then. The BBC commentators missed it, the crowd missed it. It took lots of replays for most to spot it. So to say the replays had no influence on the outcome is ridiculous.
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