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| I'm just going to put my thoughts here, about that confused statement.
1) Protecting the interests of RL. How are they balancing that with the interests of RL in Bradford, considering the massive conflict of interest they have? Have they considered getting a non-conflicted 3rd party involved?
2) Why is it just the administrator they are working closely with? Why not work with their landlord, Bradford council?
3) Inherent value of the asset? Is that just a shakedown from the greedy s? It was bought from a distressed member club for £1.25m, they've had £70k pa rental since then, morally the value should be £1.25m
4) poor local management - approved initially by the RFL as a "fit & proper person" and , supposedly, ongoing scrutiny of Bulls accounts when they engaged in player transfer activity. I'm quite happy for Mark Green and the RFL to be penalised in the same proportion to the Bulls. Because the blame is shared 3 ways for this debacle.
5) Also need to offset the disadvantage the Championship clubs would face if the Bulls ceased to exist. Fev I think got between £40-£60k gate receipt in the last game?
6) And also with their conflict of interest, allowing the Bulls to fold, would have a detrimental effect on RL in the city. Which, as the RFL point out their interest is RL - that would be an issue
7) I told you it was all about the lease....
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| Quote Nothus="Nothus"Just what kind of numpties have we had trying to buy our club
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obviously numpties who realise the club ain't worth a lot without the lease which the RFL have.......and they won't relinquish it without cast iron guarantees that secure rugby in Bradford.... so most likely no development of the site until there is investment in stadium and team ...like mentioned before Wakefield developers have circumvented the agreement that was to build them a new ground so the RFL doesn't want to be a party to that happening again
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| Quote Highlander="Highlander"I'm just going to put my thoughts here, about that confused statement.
1) Protecting the interests of RL. How are they balancing that with the interests of RL in Bradford, considering the massive conflict of interest they have? Have they considered getting a non-conflicted 3rd party involved?
2) Why is it just the administrator they are working closely with? Why not work with their landlord, Bradford council?
3) Inherent value of the asset? Is that just a shakedown from the greedy lovers? It was bought from a distressed member club for £1.25m, they've had £70k pa rental since then, morally the value should be £1.25m
4) poor local management - approved initially by the RFL as a "fit & proper person" and , supposedly, ongoing scrutiny of Bulls accounts when they engaged in player transfer activity. I'm quite happy for Mark Green and the RFL to be penalised in the same proportion to the Bulls. Because the blame is shared 3 ways for this debacle.
5) Also need to offset the disadvantage the Championship clubs would face if the Bulls ceased to exist. Fev I think got between £40-£60k gate receipt in the last game?
6) And also with their conflict of interest, allowing the Bulls to fold, would have a detrimental effect on RL in the city. Which, as the RFL point out their interest is RL - that would be an issue
7) I told you it was all about the lease....'"
If we ceased to exist, who would play there?
What use is the lease without a tenant? Build a new RFL head quarters on it?
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| Quote bowlingboy="bowlingboy"If we ceased to exist, who would play there?
What use is the lease without a tenant? Build a new RFL head quarters on it?'"
Sell it for development.
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| Quote bowlingboy="bowlingboy"If we ceased to exist, who would play there?
What use is the lease without a tenant? Build a new RFL head quarters on it?'"
how much room would a new headquarters take up......The RFL might be looking at getting it built for free by a developer for giving up the rest of the lease to them if there is no team to play there....Never trust the RFL
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| Quote bowlingboy="bowlingboy"If we ceased to exist, who would play there?
What use is the lease without a tenant? Build a new RFL head quarters on it?'"
I don't know if RFL get more wriggle room without a sitting tenant. But the lease only allows for rugby to be played there, no other development allowed under terms of the lease. I think the RFL would have to buy out the freehold from the council, but the council are aware of the value of that land, so it wouldn't be cheap.
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| Remember the Council own Odsal. The RFL have the lease.
I'm not sure the RFL have the authority to just sell the lease for a change of use for the land.
The Council would veto that.
It's a sorry state of affairs. On the one hand the lease being in the hands of the RFL means it won't be sold off lightly. On the other it could work against the only way the club could be bought.
I think the best we can hope for is a new owner swallowing the 12 point penalty and then playing a long game to get the lease.
Can't see it happening though.
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| Is this the RFL trying to absolve themselves of any blame when we are liquidated? Its sounds like that to be.
Still at least they will have protected a prize asset for the good of the sport. A sport that will no longer will be played there, and that is in fact dying on it's a@@e. They can be very proud.
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| If a new owner bought the freehold, then the RFL would be both the tenants & the Landlords of the Bulls at the same time. I'm not sure how that could be used for leverage, I'm sure its been discussed by all these developers.
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| Quote debaser="debaser"Is this the RFL trying to absolve themselves of any blame when we are liquidated? Its sounds like that to be.
Still at least they will have protected a prize asset for the good of the sport. A sport that will no longer will be played there, and that is in fact dying on it's a@@e. They can be very proud.'"
Sounds like exactly that to me too.
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| What time tomorrow will they announce our liquidation tomorrow then?
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| Seems like 2012 over again. Investor willing to put money into a poor sport and poor club. Want lease which is only thing of real value, RFL won't budge. Investor walks away.
Maybe im looking at this simply but couldnt the RFL say OK heres the price, which includes safeguarding Bulls playing there and we'll sell the lease. Or am i just looking at it too simply?
Tomorrow a lot of people could lose their jobs, christmas wages and the RFL's safeguarding rugby in bradford going as well as their expansion program.
That statement just seems like the worse is coming tomorrow and RFL just covering their backs early.
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