I'm in two minds about it. Jeffries has played well which certainly puts him in the box seat but I keep wondering if Herbert would also have shown up well behind a strong pack today.

I think its unfair to judge Herbert on performances when we've been getting destroyed up front. He's shown some skills and if he comes good with the kicking duties sitting with Briggs then potentially we have a longer term partnership than Jeffries/Briggs given his age. But then BJ HAS been playing well... nice to have this problem though!

Anybody how much deeper the attack was as opposed to usual today?

Yup and much more movement going on. Everybody seemed to be working hard to provide an option. Only once when Kopczak went through did I think support was lacking. Much better passing but still alot of dropped ball. We let Wigan off the hook plenty of times in the first half with silly errors.

Its only one game and I'm trying not to get too excited about it but it was such a big improvement it does through up the question of why today and not last week or the week before etc, etc? Can't just be Langers!

Just a bit! It was like someone had got hold of a copy of "Rugby League for Dummies" and passed it, and the DVDs of recent games, round the squad - or maybe the coaching staff? - during the week.

DILLIGAF and those Lockyear videos???

They got to one in 2001 but it was two years before they could face going through the trauma of another one.

Right hand side attack with Jeffries & Platt looked great today. WIgan did seem to concentrate on that side in attack though.

agree with a lot of points raised in previous posts. easily best performance since season opener at cardiff. We've finally remembered how to defend and played as a team instead of a group of individuals. briggs really added something in terms of his kicking game.

one thing that stands out reading this thread is what poor winners some wigan fans are.

Its probably because, dispite all the attempts at distraction with the Raynor sending off threads, they know that they scored less points against us than Halifax and that even with us down to 12 men for 50 mins. None of the Wigan players looked that happy in the interviews either.

Err wrong

Much more teamwork and resilience on display wasn't there? The Bulls side that went to Salford would've shipped 60+ especially after the sending off. If we could play with that intensity and cohesion every week from now on we have a chance of sneaking into the 8.

Like Mick and Jockabull I noticed how better organised the backline was in attack. Standing deeper seemed to give playmakers more time to put in accurate passes and the runners more time to time their runs and catch. It's not rocket science. For the first time this season we executed some moves more than once without dropping the ball.

We had (Scruton apart) our most experienced pack out there today and it showed. Elima and Langley really stiffened things up. It just shows how much difference they make and how it souds good to have 3 Bulls youngsters in the back row they're not ready yet.

A lot now depends on how the side react. There's been a lot of talk about that recently so they need to take some momentum into next week's game. If we lapse back into the old ways yesterday won't mean diddly squat!