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| Right. These are questions I want clear YES/NO answers to:
1 - Was the admistration primarily intended as a means of removing Khan from the picture?
2 - Did the RFL work closely with and provide advice to Moore & Co, regarding bringing this about?
3 - Did the RFL work closely with Moore & Co, or at least did they provide active and constructive advice, regarding entering administration?
4 - Were the RFL involved in any way in the setting up of the (ultimately aborted) prepack?
5 - Did the RFL provide advice, input, guidance or indications of likely outcomes to Moore & Co, which they relied on in setting up the prepack?
6 - Did the RFL tell Moore & Co - or at least did they leave them with a clear understanding - that there would be no points deduction for entering administration and immediately exiting through a prepack?
7 - Did the RFL see or request business plans and/or financial projections from Moore & Co prior to administration?
8 - Did Moore & Co propose and intend to repay all the non-Khan creditors, and if so is there demonstrable proof that this was intent not just words?
9 - Did the RFL give Moore & Co full opportunity to present and discuss their business plans, before ruling on the points deduction and the (debilitating) ongoing special measures?
10 - Had the club new players lined up ready to join, whose signings were stymied by the continuing special measures?
11 - Were Moore & Co given any prior indication that special measures could or would continue after the administration?
12 - Did the RFL impose a 6 point penalty not a 4 point penaly because they had determined that NO creditors would actiually be repaid?
Maybe we will get answers in the formal report. I rather doubt it,though. Others may be content to let the matter lie and "move on". Not me. I will not be content until I know the answers to the above questions.
I suspect there are people who know where the bodies are buried, who hitherto have largely kept their own counsel. I would very much invite and urge any such people to now put in the public domain any (further) information that might cast light on anything that has gone on.
I suggest that, only when we know the answers to these questions (and doubtless some others that I have not included) will ANYONE be in any position to judge whether the destruction of the Bulls over recent months has been justified, unavoidable, inevitable, accidental, criminal, or just plain reprehensible?
And who is actually to blame for the destruction, so they can be judged by history accordingly.
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| Are we getting any reasons for the judgement at all? Would that be too much to ask?
And anyone else really believe that we are going to appeal? Or just more big words from our invisible "owner"?
Relegation, oblivion, here we come. Hope all respective parties are happy with themselves. Sleep well tonight.
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| The independent Sporting Sanctions Appeals Panel will hand down a full written judgement within the next 14 days.
I presume this will a public document?
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| Quote: Bully_Boxer "I said beforehand that we should accept the ruling of the independent panel and assuming everything is above board and we received a fair hearing I stand by that.
We need to start making plans for dropping down a division and building some solid foundations. We need to make sure we're in the strongest possible position when the opportunity for promotion comes about. Whether that be by straight forward promotion or by another club in SL going belly up.'"
spot on, and good luck!
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| Quote: Wakefield No 1 "The independent Sporting Sanctions Appeals Panel will hand down a full written judgement within the next 14 days.
I presume this will a public document?'"
That's going to be interesting reading.
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Marc Green was interviewed on BBC Radio Leeds this evening. One comment he made was:
"We have been told, for a bizarre reason, that we did not meet the criteria to even have the appeal considered"
Sounds like we fell at the first hurdle.
Interview can be heard here: https://audioboo.fm/boos/2244768-bradfo ... led-appeal
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Marc Green was interviewed on BBC Radio Leeds this evening. One comment he made was:
"We have been told, for a bizarre reason, that we did not meet the criteria to even have the appeal considered"
Sounds like we fell at the first hurdle.
Interview can be heard here: https://audioboo.fm/boos/2244768-bradfo ... led-appeal
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| Groundhog Day.
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| Quote: Adeybull "Blah blah blah blah blah ......'"
FFS. THE DECISION's made but you insist on continuing to bleat on.
IT'S very simple....
Bradford Bulls went bust. Creditors got stuffed. 6 points deduction.
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| Quote: mystic eddie "The simple fact is that some people will look to blame others but fundamentally it is all our own fault. The club have been run by a collection of charlatans and shysters for years now and it has finally caught up with us.
Unfortunately the people who are ultimately responsible for this situation are not really going to be affected by the decision whatsoever and the players and fans of today are the ones who will suffer for their utter incompetence.
But it is not as if we were not warned. Whilst the fans assistance in saving the club last time round was admirable, it was also pretty embarrassing watching us bring out the begging bowls like some city centre "dweller" who is desperate for a "cup of tea."
It has been one disaster after another and, as I have said MANY times before, had it been another club I very much doubt that anyone on here would realistically be able to defend it whatsoever. As today proved, there was simply no case for the defence.
So next year will be the Super League without Bradford Bulls, barring some sort of miracle. In the unlikely event that I win the lottery then I promise I will buy out Wakefield Trinity Wildcats and liquidise them immediately. That would cheer us all up.
The collective brain-cell will be in overdrive in the fair city of Wakey today and, TBH, I can actually hear all the horses hooves from up here as they all ride into the city square to high-six each other.
I am not 100% convinced however, that Super League NEEDS the Bradford Bulls, but we certainly need Super League.'"
Sir, I have your meal ready. Sour grapes, humble pie and hard cheese was it?
Oh and a pint of bitter to wash it down with no doubt!
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| Quote: TrinityIHC "Sir, I have your meal ready. Sour grapes, humble pie and hard cheese was it?
Oh and a pint of bitter to wash it down with no doubt!'"
At least you are staying up on merit though, eh? Well deserved.
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Aye, and Eddie is hinting at it too. And, as we all know:
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| Quote: TrinityIHC "Sir, I have your meal ready. Sour grapes, humble pie and hard cheese was it?
Oh and a pint of bitter to wash it down with no doubt!'"
Sour grapes? Humble pie??? WTF are you on about???
There is no sour grapes from me, nor have I got any reason to eat humble pie. As I said, we have nobody to blame for this than ourselves.
I would have thought that that was pertinently clear from my post?
Still, you are proving my point. I assume you are still waiting for your turn to use the brain cell?
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| Quote: mystic eddie "
So next year will be the Super League without Bradford Bulls, barring some sort of miracle. In the unlikely event that I win the lottery then I promise I will buy out Wakefield Trinity Wildcats and liquidise them immediately. That would cheer us all up.
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a bit harsh
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| Quote: debaser "At least you are staying up on merit though, eh? Well deserved.'"
The irony is, if you trace the beginning of the Bulls troubles to a certain point in time, the likeliest beneficiary of this decision is Iestyn Harris.
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| Quote: TrinityIHC "Sir, I have your meal ready. Sour grapes, humble pie and hard cheese was it?
Oh and a pint of bitter to wash it down with no doubt!'"
You've obviously been saving your jiz up for this but you clearly quoted the wrong comment.
A post pointing out it's our own fault and you accuse him of sour grapes.
What a ing moron
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