Because I'm sure the club have absolutely no input into what goes into the paper........

Thank you for that, knowing your posts from the wakey board i realise you are speaking from direct experience. And your sentiments are spot on, as fans all we can really do is support the badge and the shirt, different people will (attempt to) pay the wages of different players but the shirt and the fans will always be there.....hopefully!

I take it now we can remove Awford from the rack & replace him with Whitcu*t? Or is there still room for both?

Your answer was at the forum last night. Repeated by Adey on page 16 of the fans forum thread.

If we need a new catering contract, I assume it is the same whitcu*t Ryan Whitcut's Experience Business Development Northern Hire Ltd Privately Held; 1-10 employees; Events Services industry November 2013 – Present (2 months) Leeds, United Kingdom www.northernhire.co.uk/

If we need a new catering contract, I assume it is the same whitcu*t Ryan Whitcut's Experience Business Development Northern Hire Ltd Privately Held; 1-10 employees; Events Services industry November 2013 – Present (2 months) Leeds, United Kingdom www.northernhire.co.uk/

I would also put Gerry Sutcliffe somewhere near as well. Will be very interesting to hear what he has to say,no doubt he knew nothing of all the e that's been left.

So Omar left because of ill health

Were you at the forum?

The point I think Moore was making was that when OK took over, the club had zero debt (it was, after all, a completely new company) and significant operating costs to meet. It now has £1.2m of debt, and significant operating costs to meet. Simple statement of fact about why the financial position now is worse than then.

The interpretation (or misinterpretation) of what was said is down to you. My interpretation differs to yours, since I took it as a simple statement of fact.

If you were at the forum, you will also know that they made it clear that OK - and the rest of the previous administration - indeed had no grounding in RL, or in running a joined-up business involving sport, stadium, hospitality and merchandising. Again, not my interpretation, simply repeating what was actually said. He went on to say that OK seemed to leave all the day to day decsions to Whitcu*t, and used words to the effect that the latter was effectively out of control.

I'm not sure who has had dealings with and been involved in meetings with any of the OK administration. But as one who has, I saw with my own eyes very clear specific examples of where Whitcu*t had clearly not briefed OK, or may even have told him things that were not correct. Maybe he was telling OK what he wanted to hear. And for one of those points, which affected me and my colleagues very directly, I had to put him straight very directly indeed, in front of Whitcu*t.

When history comes to be written, although OK was his own worst enemy in some respects, I feel sure it will record that he was badly let down by some he relied on.

Without wanting to sound flippant; do the new board have that grounding?

I'm sure I remember reading in the T&A one director described himself as an ex-southerner with little knowledge of RL.

Quite.

As you have repeated ad nauseam over several years, no matter who is in charge at the club.

They are strong in debt management with excellent financial controls. Which , at this moment, is what we need.

Adey with you having dealings with OK and previous set up,is that why you haven't been on here for a while before now ?

I believe "the books" to which you refer were in fact the projections and supporting info prepared by, and provided to prospective buyers by, the Joint Administrators. What I saw certainly was.

And the forecast cash funding requirement they showed would likely have put off most prospective buyers. At the time, I wondered at what seemed serious prudence in the projections, but the actual funding requirement out-turn would seem to have fully vindicated that prudence.

Directors Mark Moore, Ian Watt and Andrew Calvert claimed in a statement that “as each day goes by the board continues to receive more information detrimental to the stability of the business”. They added: “The last administrative team struggled to understand the full impact of running this club and stepped away from the business with large outstanding debts which the club now needs to recover from.” www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... __/?ref=eb ==================================================== Cheers OK/Sutcliffe,I saw you coming a mile off. Now given the above is published fact(?)were Elliot Whitehead and Bateman sacrificed to keep the club going?Yes,imo,and as I said at the time,very convenient both were the only players where money could be gained and BOTH "suddenly" wanted to leave and the club were skint ,despite OK's rhetoric in the press.How much did Sutcliffe put in? and then walked away--ill health my ar*e.Was Sutcliffe ill as well?Was it contagious? No,imo,the chickens were coming home to roost so they scarpered. How the fooook has such a great club found itself in this position and run down by incompetent imbeciles? Trevor must be turning in his grave.

Directors Mark Moore, Ian Watt and Andrew Calvert claimed in a statement that “as each day goes by the board continues to receive more information detrimental to the stability of the business”. They added: “The last administrative team struggled to understand the full impact of running this club and stepped away from the business with large outstanding debts which the club now needs to recover from.” www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... __/?ref=eb ==================================================== Cheers OK/Sutcliffe,I saw you coming a mile off. Now given the above is published fact(?)were Elliot Whitehead and Bateman sacrificed to keep the club going?Yes,imo,and as I said at the time,very convenient both were the only players where money could be gained and BOTH "suddenly" wanted to leave and the club were skint ,despite OK's rhetoric in the press.How much did Sutcliffe put in? and then walked away--ill health my ar*e.Was Sutcliffe ill as well?Was it contagious? No,imo,the chickens were coming home to roost so they scarpered. How the fooook has such a great club found itself in this position and run down by incompetent imbeciles? Trevor must be turning in his grave.

I think I may just go hibernate in my bed until February, anyone do any comfy beds or mattresses?!