They had about 100 Widnes tickets left at noon. I had planned to get mine yesterday before the game but thought the vibes coming out of the club were so negative that I'd be giving my money to HRMC.

I just can't comprehend why the club didnt announce the extension to the pledge deadline yesterday. Even if they didnt know the running total they had nothing to lose. They should have asked an ex player (Robbie Paul, Keith Mumby etc) to announce it at half time, create a "Bob Geldof moment" and then repeated it at the the final whistle. The emotion of the game would have generated the extra £20k by midnight.

Is it not the case that while they may well appear on your online account very quickly (often same day), then they are still not available for funds until they have cleared ?

To give a worrying example I paid the balance of a holiday last week into an RBS account in cash across the counter of the main office in Leeds, the payment was to a UK business in Northumberland direct to their RBS account - they didn't see my CASH payment on their online account for three full working days which frankly I find appalling, but not surprising - I was also told at a NatWest counter that I couldn't pay the CASH into an RBS account from there despite the fact that NatWest are 100% owned by RBS.

Credit card payments are even worse, you may see the credit in your online business account but the terms of the transaction mean that the credit card company can reclaim it several weeks later, I know of one business who was "done" for several thousand pounds in this way after supplying goods on the strength of a "buyer not present" transaction that was reclaimed EIGHT weeks later.

That cant be right, lets be fair, i work for RBS/NatWest and cash paid in over the counter shows up instantly to the account in question

Although this means another few days of stressing (it's a good job I have no hair to lose!) and has been handled in a very "Bulls" way, it has to be a good thing. As I said - I know one person who pledged LAST NIGHT, and two more I am confident are going to over the weekend.
Let's keep strong, we can do it. Come on you Bulls.

Fair enough and really deserves a bit of credit for this considering the flack gone his way (not totally undeserved in a lot of cases).

I reckon the delay has more to do with spending the weekend telling potential investors to put up or shut up. Given the fact that that amount of cash has been raised in such a short space of time I think we will have companies wanting to get involved with us because the support is there that's been proved.

You know, as long as you stay off the cherry brandy and macaroons, and leave those Polish amazons alone, you don't half talk some sense.

You should maybe go to the Chapel Allerton branch of NatWest then and show them how to accept £230 in cash to be paid into an RBS account, because they said it can't be done, I didn't believe them but they insisted.

While you're at it you could ask them to refund the £1 it cost me to park in central Leeds to go to the East Parade RBS bank to pay the money in

If you like I'll give you the name of the company who's account it went into on Fri 30th Mar and they'll tell you how it didn't appear on their statement until Weds 4th Apr, I'd have preferred not to have used the banking network at all because its not the first crapola experience I've had with NatWest (and all of my business, personal, insurance, pension, ISA banking used to be done with them).

Am I surprised RBS have dropped your team in the dog-muck ?

No

Anyway, I truly hope the pledges do come in and I hope that HMRC (if they are the main creditor) take them into account when demanding whatever they are owed, hell as a taxpayer I should be insisting that they do because they'll get zippo if they don't.

It makes a lot of sense for the Board to take the weekend to review where things stand. The daft thing was not announcing the pledge extension yesterday.

Ideally they'll announce on Monday that they're selling the club to an investor(s) who is willing and able to match the fans cash. But they should also be prepared to put the pledge on ice and go into administration if they're not very confident of raising the second £500k

I'm sorry you guys are having to go through all this at the moment, but have a little respect for the rest of the rugby league who have also tried to help you.

I'm a Hull fan and know there was a collection made for Bradford's plight at the KC last week. The fan you took a swipe at had also pledged to support your club.

I can understand the situation is stressful, but if other clubs/fans money isn't good enough for you then you could always give it back.

Good luck with raising the rest of the money, I hope the Bulls come through all this, I'm sure they will. Hopefully, upon reflection, you'll beecome a little more gracious in how others have also helped the Bradford fans efforts.

I apologised to the guy at the time - as you surely saw - because he came across to me initially as one of those (most seem to be from Wakefield, mind) seeking to lecture us from outside. He promptly demonstrated why he had every right to make his point. Had he have made that clear before then there is no way I would have reacted as I did.

Just like (unlike the fans of some clubs) Bulls fans generally have never sought to portray Hull FC fans in a bad light (any going back a few years may recall I personally was very supportive) because of the actions of a small minority, I would ask you not to judge all Bulls fans by an isolated mistake made by a single Bulls fan, subsequently apologised for! Come on now!

If you read through these threads, you would see universal appreciation from Bulls fans for the pretty staggering degree of support received from outside.

And If you scroll back a bit through your own forum, you will see a post from me specifically thanking Hull FC fans for their support and good wishes. In fact rlHere it isrl

I fear you will hate me for saying THIS though: in my haste, I read "East Hull..." and stopped there. I assumed he must be a Robin...

FWIW, from what I've read, I think the answer to that is no.

My understanding is that the bank cleared our debt (the presumably up to then, agreed overdraft) by taking funds from the cheque we received from the RFL for the sale of the lease, whilst at the time they reducing/ending the overdraft facility. As the RFL had already taken some due payments from the amount before they sent the cheque, it left the club in the position of being unable to pay various tax bills.

I'm sure I'll soon be corrected it that's not, at least basically, the case...

Its not a £160K profit in that example though is it, so deduct VAT and other costs and it'll come closer to adding up.

...and breathe.

My reference was to the various Wakey fans, on here but especially on the VT, who have been lecturing us not to support the pledge but instead sit tight and wait for administration. I agree not every Wakey fan, but a number nevertheless.

Incidentally. I have checked with East Hull FC fan, and he was quite happy with my apology straight after he clarified, so there wasn't really any need for Rugby Raider to take issue. (In fact he was rather more generous that that, and much more so than I deserved).