Garside basically announced in the press today. Can't say I know much about him to be honest and there could still be another we take from you lot yet.

Been a bit in and out of the team this year. He's a good solid championship player (I don't mean that in a bad way) . He's a teacher and so is PT and you do get value for money. Forced his way into the side again recently. I would have kept him but when everyone's fit and firing he's probably behind Webster, Farrell and young Storton for the SR position. But I'd say it's a decent signing for you guys.

He had a bit of a lull in form this year. On his day he's very decent. Was my man of the match yesterday.

You can see who else is OOC on the squad thread. Lots of players I'd like to keep.

Read a snapshot of Chalmers Q&A in LE, says playing budget will be more or less equal to 2019s.

Anyone know how we stand with the 'signing ban', which has, apparently, prevented us from announcing even re-signs?

I believe all of the outstanding debt and CCJ's have been paid so the ban should have been lifted. Milnes has signed a new deal but that hasn't been announced yet.

Yes, that was the point really. It should have, but I've not read that is has and no announcements have actually been made.

Who knows? Chalmers isn't in the country so I guess everything is on hold.

One of the most interesting snippets in the LE interview was the admission that the player budget for 2020 will be about the same as 2019.

That suggests that they expect the fall in income from ST, sponsorship, hospitality etc to roughly match the savings gained by leaving Odsal. So not so much of a 'dividend' that some people are thinking then?

Together with mutterings about cutting down the size of the squad, not having a dedicated Reserve team, it all sounds like we are being very cautious for 2020, which might not be a bad thing. We don't yet know what the ST take-up will be, and theres' no point in risking everything on a whim.

Perhaps we will do something a bit like Leigh have done - budget for low crowds, but then use the extra income from better-than-expected crowds to bring in players as the season progresses? It doesn't seem to have worked out too badly for them - tipped for relegation by some before the season started, yet there they are firmly in the Top 5...

Surely the point is that although the player budget will be the same next season the club won't lose 500k over the year.

Precisely, for the first time in eons we should be financially sustainable and have a way to cut the cloth appropriately without putting out a Pennine League standard team

I find it harder and harder to support this club and not because we are moving to Dewsbury.

We have 12 players signed up for next year.

James Green has been trying for weeks to get an answer regards his future - wall of silence. So he is playing for York next season.
He's been a good player for us.

How many more are going to look for another club due the hopeless relationship between the "management" (I use that term very loosely) and the players?

Chalmers clearing off to NZ rather than going to Dewsbury didn't go down well with staff either.

The only bond is between the players and the fans - unfortunately that won't pay the rent for them.

The club continues to fritter away valuable ££££'s on "management" staff, some of who have overseen three administrations and have obviously learnt nothing.
Then we have the "Teenfest" - needing 3000 ticket sales to break even and never made 500. Abandoned and at a cost to promoters and "publicity" - not that we saw any.
I wonder who's big idea that was then!

In the meantime we lose valuable staff and players to other clubs, those staff could have been retained had money not been wasted elsewhere.

As far as I am concerned the most important asset the club has is the players followed by its fans - right now the finances are pointing in the wrong direction and its not by accident.

Some player exits might be viewed as "OK" - but I fear some of our better and popular players won't be with the club next season - and it could have been avoided.

I counted 17 players on the squad list that are contracted after this season

Incorrect assumption.

Not got anything from that person.

Do continue to think all is rosy then.