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| Quote: paulwalker71 "Jhis impact and go-forward and Hallas for his energy, but the rest were totally second best
Kirk - just a big lad who doesn't punch his weight
Magrin - no real impact
Oledzki - clearly not fit, a risk that didn't pay off
Davies - tried hard but made little headway
Halafihi - last minute replacement for Cameron Smith, totally out of his depth
Chapelhow - remind me why he is even at our club?
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Can't argue with that.
Kirk needs some time off to fill out. He' just getting bashed about at the moment.
Margrin. Wasn't up to the challenge with about 3 errors. Just don't think he wanted to front up.
Chapelhow is a complete waste of a playing jersey. What a shirker! Big lad with absolute zero bottle. Was frightened to take it in. No where near a championship player let alone an SL one. Can't believe Widnes extended his contract. Was the worst of the lot IMO and that's saying something!
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| The saddest aspect of all, to me anyway, is that I now firmly believe that our young academy, and just graduated academy players, really need to get away from this club. They deserve better, and we OWE them better, than to serve them up each week like sacrificial lambs to the slaughter. The people running the club should hang their heads in shame.
We were awful. If you can't catch and hang on to the ball then you'll never win rugby matches.
The officials were a disgrace. They failed in their duty to protect players from outright thuggery. I hope the game was recorded and that heads (metaphorically) roll. I suspect Joe Keyes' head is still rolling. If the officials don't want to do the job then they shouldn't take the money. They're pretty ropey at the best of times in this division, but those three are the worst I've seen - have they had ANY training or were they recruited form a local youth club 10 minutes before the game?
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| Quote: Bulliac "The saddest aspect of all, to me anyway, is that I now firmly believe that our young academy, and just graduated academy players, really need to get away from this club. They deserve better, and we OWE them better, than to serve them up each week like sacrificial lambs to the slaughter. The people running the club should hang their heads in shame.
We were awful. If you can't catch and hang on to the ball then you'll never win rugby matches.
The officials were a disgrace. They failed in their duty to protect players from outright thuggery. I hope the game was recorded and that heads (metaphorically) roll. I suspect Joe Keyes' head is still rolling. If the officials don't want to do the job then they shouldn't take the money. They're pretty ropey at the best of times in this division, but those three are the worst I've seen - have they had ANY training or were they recruited form a local youth club 10 minutes before the game?'"
Yep it's got to the point where you are forced to question the games duty of care to it's players.
I stopped going to games because I enjoyed it a while ago and resigned myself to going to games out of guilt and loyalty. I have to ask myself can I stomach watching young players riskeing their careers and getting injusred simply so RFL can fulfil fixtures.
I decided not to go to Blackpool as I thought that a dirty deal had been done to keep the big ticket sales for that for RFL. Going to games having opposition fans tell me we should have started in league 1 when I agree with them is beyond boring too.
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| Quote: Bulliac "The saddest aspect of all, to me anyway, is that I now firmly believe that our young academy, and just graduated academy players, really need to get away from this club. They deserve better, and we OWE them better, than to serve them up each week like sacrificial lambs to the slaughter. The people running the club should hang their heads in shame.
We were awful. If you can't catch and hang on to the ball then you'll never win rugby matches.
The officials were a disgrace. They failed in their duty to protect players from outright thuggery. I hope the game was recorded and that heads (metaphorically) roll. I suspect Joe Keyes' head is still rolling. If the officials don't want to do the job then they shouldn't take the money. They're pretty ropey at the best of times in this division, but those three are the worst I've seen - have they had ANY training or were they recruited form a local youth club 10 minutes before the game?'"
Agree Bulliac. I feel empty at our performance and our club.
On the officials i'm raging. Refereeing is a hard job and while at the game i always get frustrated when calls go against us, I try and avoid blaming referees as it is an impossible job and mistakes and missing knock-ons happen. Without ref's we have no game.
However, yesterday i was livid, as you say by the officials allowing absolute thuggery to go unpunished. It was a disgrace. It was ugly to watch. Even if we had have won, i almost fell out with RL with what was allowed to go on. That's not the tough sport i've grown up watching. It was cowardice thuggery and reminded me of watching the Queens RL club in an amateur game. The linesman who apparently didn't see Keyes being knocked unconscious 2m from him shouldn't be allowed near a rugby field again. He thought it was rather funny though almost trying to play pantomime villian to the rightly furious fans. Him smirking while Keyes was flat out i'll never forget. The next incident was just as bad if not worse. Absolute no need for it. Dangerous play and totally unnecessary launching Thomas into the railings. Again he knew what he was doing. 2 sin-bins and then the ref gives a drop out
Yet 2 plays earlier where there was a bit of pushing and shoving happened when Hallas's arm was trapped by Gareth Moore, and gave a penalty. That is the situation to say, "just get on with it" not when someones being smashed into the railings and a mass brawl erupts. The safety of the players was compromised yesterday by the tactics Dewsbury did and what the officials willfully allowed to happen. They will be absolute silence from the powers that be (see the no action from the Rochdale Oldham game) So disappointed the tactics Dewsbury did yesterday, but hey it worked.
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| Whilst not condoning thuggery........... well yes I am. I am sick of being on the wrong end of these thuggish assaults by opposition teams over the last three years. Until we learn to get our 'retribution' in first we will never get out of this league. It is not a place where you will get out purely on superior talent (and yes I do realise that at the moment we are scarce on talent but in this division you desperately need one or two enforcers).
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| Quote: rugbyreddog "Whilst not condoning thuggery........... well yes I am. I am sick of being on the wrong end of these thuggish assaults by opposition teams over the last three years. Until we learn to get our 'retribution' in first we will never get out of this league. It is not a place where you will get out purely on superior talent (and yes I do realise that at the moment we are scarce on talent but in this division you desperately need one or two enforcers).'"
We did try a couple of times tbf, were just not very good at it! The drop out from the Thomas crash barrier incident was orchestrated to drop on a dews player with four or five of our guys arriving at speed and ahead of the ball with the intention of smashing into the dews players and it was almost another dust up, trouble is we got pinged for a shoulder charge
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| Quote: Duckman "We did try a couple of times tbf, were just not very good at it! The drop out from the Thomas crash barrier incident was orchestrated to drop on a dews player with four or five of our guys arriving at speed and ahead of the ball with the intention of smashing into the dews players and it was almost another dust up, trouble is we got pinged for a shoulder charge
I'll just put it on the list of things we are cr4p at then.
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| Quote: rugbyreddog "I'll just put it on the list of things we are cr4p at then.'"
at least we're good at filling that list!
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I said "....people like Petit..."
i.e. Administrators, as in Admin #4 etc.
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| Uttery irrelevent to us now but i'm assuming the shoulder is the hit on Keyes that the ref and linesman thought was ok.
rlhttps://www.rugby-league.com/article/40242/disciplinary-nine-players-chargedrl
Oh and Magrin's up for punching.
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| Quote: childofthenorthern "Uttery irrelevent to us now but i'm assuming the shoulder is the hit on Keyes that the ref and linesman thought was ok.
rlhttps://www.rugby-league.com/article/40242/disciplinary-nine-players-chargedrl
Oh and Magrin's up for punching.'"
Walshaw 'no further action'; Magrin '3 match ban'
You just know that's what's gonna happen
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| rlhttps://www.rugby-league.com/the_rfl/disciplinaryrl There's also 2 no charges (Thomas and Morton) which both seem to be inconclusive evidence, which shows it just depends on which way the camera is pointing at the time as to who's charged. I might have to watch the match now to see if it's just the RFL's video.
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| 'Joe' Magrin charged....
Can we make a case of the wrong man being charged. A criminal or civil case could easily be thrown out of Court if the wrong Defendant had been charged (I'm not suggesting this as a serious defence but we need all the help we can get!!!)
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| Frustrating regarding the disciplinary. I know people always moan about it and it is difficult as people have different opinions of how long people should be banned. But IMO the RFL and referees are failing in their care for player welfare and protecting them.
FWIW - The grade B ban for Margrin and Ollett are right as they both threw aggressive punches in the melee. But how they think its the same seriousness as Walshaws challenge is beyond me. Shoulder charge to the head in which our half back had to leave the game concussed and also misses this week. So in effect 1 1/2 matches. Walshaw will probably get a game. Where's the justice or deterrent? How can the RFL think a 1-2 game ban is acceptable for knocking someone unconscious who can't play a week later. Half backs should be protected.
Also it's farcical the Morton incident hasn't been charged either. Again dangerous play and the "video evidence is not conclusive" is a load of rubbish. What about the referee and Linesman view of the incident?
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| Quote: Bull Mania "What about the referee and Linesman view of the incident?'"
From the accounts of people who were at the game, it's been suggested that Ray Charles would have seen more than the ref and linesman. Despite the handicaps of being both blind and dead.
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