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“Flying out of the line” is alright if the whole team is doing it. If someone does it on their own though it’s usually bad news. Players can’t react quick enough to mirror someone’s defensive read if they sprint out like that instinctively.

At that point in the game we were really a shower and defending as individuals. It reminded me of the horror show away at Salford in 2011 when we conceded 50+.

Blythe got concussed a bit and I was surprised he stayed on as he was all over the place and one of the culprits for the fourth try when Addy got bounced off along with Mathers and Pitts. I do have my worries about our right side defence. In the first half we were slow to slide and left Caro with a 4 to 1 for the first try. Even when their winger looked to have blown it he still walked through Welham and Caro. Welham got pushed off a bit too often in the game for my liking and Addy isn’t the strongest defender sometimes.

As Bulliac says we seemed to be out-enthused for long periods up front. There seem to be issues with our attacking play. Our forwards 9/10 times got put on their backs – Leigh’s were always on their front. Leigh got numbers in the tackle and slowed us right down – Leigh were playing the ball fast with our tacklers still on the ground and nowhere in defence .

The Leigh defence was in our faces when the ball got passed from dummy half which put pressure on our first receiver. For 65 minutes they totally nullified us as a threat. Passes went above heads or to nobody leading to a try in at least one case. This is a concern as we struggled up front versus Fev and at times versus Swinton too. Only Sidlow has consistently made ground or broke a tackle. We’ll miss him and need Clough back asap. We need to address this before playing Fax and going away to Batley especially.

When we try and offload we look much more threatening as per the last 15mins of the game on Sunday. I don’t think playing it down the middle with the ball up the jumper is going to work anymore. I think we need to ask more questions with our forward play and try and use the ball more, we need support runners and offloads as I think we’re too easy to defend against when we keep it simple.

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Quote: Bullseye "Blythe got concussed a bit and I was surprised he stayed on as he was all over the place and one of the culprits for the fourth try when Addy got bounced off along with Mathers and Pitts. I do have my worries about our right side defence. In the first half we were slow to slide and left Caro with a 4 to 1 for the first try. Even when their winger looked to have blown it he still walked through Welham and Caro. Welham got pushed off a bit too often in the game for my liking and Addy isn’t the strongest defender sometimes. '"


I have to agree. If the 4th is the try I'm thinking of, Addy's attempted "tackle" was quite pathetic. I use the term tackle loosely as he seemed to try and just bump into the bloke.

I praise Addy a LOT, but I'd expect better than that attempt from a 10 year old.

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Quote: Bullseye "“Flying out of the line” is alright if the whole team is doing it. If someone does it on their own though it’s usually bad news. Players can’t react quick enough to mirror someone’s defensive read if they sprint out like that instinctively. '"


Spot on!

If you, 'fly out', the one thing you [imust[/i do is make the tackle. Coming out to, 'put a shot on' , is rarely a good idea - except when Paul Medley used to do it, of course, well...., sometimes when Medders used to do it.....

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Quote: Bulliac "Spot on!

If you, 'fly out', the one thing you [imust[/i do is make the tackle. Coming out to, 'put a shot on' , is rarely a good idea - except when Paul Medley used to do it, of course, well...., sometimes when Medders used to do it.....'"


Scruton was also quite handy at it. Until they outlawed shoulder charges and then he calmed down.

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He was, you're right. Same applies as it did to Medders though - it was good when it came off and, whilst fans loved it [including me], it was never really a reliable 'business' tackle.

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Quote: Bulliac "He was, you're right. Same applies as it did to Medders though - it was good when it came off and, whilst fans loved it [including me], it was never really a reliable 'business' tackle.'"


Absolutely. Almost as high risk as one of those big looping passes Iestyn used to give away once a week.

Although it was useful sometimes when an opposition player needed putting in his place. I remember a friendly at Dewsbury and there was a bit fat knacker playing for the Rams (I forget his name now). Tried to rough up one of our young lads. Scruton came off the bench and absolutely destroyed the bloke with a huge hit. Never seen a better non-verbal way of saying "pick on someone your own size".

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I'll be honest, I thought in that 65 minutes Welham was the worst player on the pitch. I rate the bloke very highly and he will be a very good signing this season. But on Sunday his defence was woeful. Fell off most attempts, grabbing shirts etc. He left Caro a few times with a Leigh overlap but the bit I remember most was in the second half. He missed a tackle at centre, then he proceed to chase the player to the middle of the pitch to try make a tackle, at which point he grabbed the shirt. It reminded me of an Under 9's match where the players chase the ball, which in turn left a gap out wide (again).

Don't get me wrong his catch for his try was superb and there were many poor players in that 65 mins. But he was for me, the worst in those dire 65 mins. However as I say, he will be fantastic for us this season. Along with Mitch Clark.

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Having watched the match on Bulls TV I could see Marc Green saying to the Squad I'm paying you Full Time yet you're playing Part Time!
Leigh were guilty of that old Bulls habit of switching off thinking game won, though you couldn't blame them as the Bulls were an embarrassing shambles for 60+ minutes! Jimmy says he'll take the blame for the way the Bulls approached the game, but even more worrying is that there was no plan B(Nobby was unfairly castigated for not having one on a regular basis) as plan A was not working and the Team just let Leigh dominate them all over the park.
We could use FA's explanation and say that if the plan was to tire Leigh out then it worked brilliantly save for Addy's iffy line kicking for goal the Bulls should have won the match!!
I'm not worried about early season match's I don't expect or want the Bulls to peak until the super 8's but it's difficult to keep playing below their potential all the time Jimmy needs to ramp it up for the bigger games.
Still if was easy it would be boring!

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eusa_think.gif Plan? We had a plan?

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Having now watched the game online it was just as I witnessed at the time and pretty much as everyone on here has written. The only difference is that bloke co-commentating. They need to get him off, he makes Stevo sound like the best there is. He even managed to ruin the last 15 minutes for me.

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Quote: Blotto "Metaphorically speaking Well, indeed! If the plan was to kick off and play it by ear and see what happens, then that was the plan!

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Did Ross set Addy up with this one

www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... ague_side/

Or did they collude to wind up the usual morons on the T & A comments page?
Did Ross set Addy up with this one

www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... ague_side/

Or did they collude to wind up the usual morons on the T & A comments page?


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Quote: Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza "I'm beginning to realise the Internet is full of weirdos. The T&A comments page is anonymous but FAcebook isn't. However, that doesn't stop people putting similar comments on the Bulls fAcebook page.

The number of "disgusted" and "ashamed of themselves" comments suggest that there is a massive number of people that need to get a life.

It's a rugby match and the team you support was down on the scoreline for a bit. If you're that bothered get another hobby or a girlfriend because it ain't worth it.'"


Have to admit, after the game, as someone who's never left a game with more that 30seconds left [and that was just once] I was taking the mick a bit about those who walked out with 20 mins to go.

My scenario was them, stomping into the pub, and shouting, "Bloody Bulls are useless, getting stuffed 32 - 6 when I walked out....."

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