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| Quote: ridlerbull "This is likely an unpopular position, but I do feel that Rugby League in this country is fundamentally damaged, and we are only going to see more and more of this sort of thing. If Bradford are genuinely no more at least me stake in it will already be gone.'"
Unpopular, yes. Lots of people will not like it. But most people will probably agree with it. Myself included.
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| 7 1/2 weeks. I was wondering how long this would take. Whole range of emotion from Bulls fans, but I would admit rage is one of them. Against our owners & the RFL & the (admittedly few)sanctimonious fans from elsewhere. And the desire to do as much damage to the RFL as we go down & take them with us is there, deep down.
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| For the RFL to ask for new owners to give personal financial assurances / guarantees that fixtures will be fulfilled for next 3 seasons they effectively restricted the process to 'money men' and removed the scope for an effective community interest approach with a prudent business plan.
A bit of a shame because it seems most supporters in most sports would rather see an approach ran by prudent business people with a model deep rooted in the community. Governing Bodies need to get real and start encouraging the development of sustainable clubs that serve their communities .
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| I really hope new buyers are found and Bradford take their place, but having looked at the RFL requirements I'm not sure how quickly that can be done.
However, assuming it is sorted in the next few weeks I think there is an argument that Bradford's start to the season is delayed a couple of weeks to allow time to get a team together....I don't know how feasible that will be.
I would also hope that all other clubs will offer a few players for loans to help get the club going, especially in the short term.
Is starting in the Championship a certainty or could the club still start in League 1?
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| Quote: Braveheart "For the RFL to ask for new owners to give personal financial assurances / guarantees that fixtures will be fulfilled for next 3 seasons they effectively restricted the process to 'money men' and removed the scope for an effective community interest approach with a prudent business plan.
A bit of a shame because it seems most supporters in most sports would rather see an approach ran by prudent business people with a model deep rooted in the community. Governing Bodies need to get real and start encouraging the development of sustainable clubs that serve their communities .'"
The Bulls current set up and the Bulls RFL proposed set will only avoid going back into administration when the owner(s) can no longer get borrow anymore cash or put off paying for things if the person/people in charge a a top business person with loads of cash/a consortium of top business people with loads of cash.
Unfortunately those sorts of people would not find either proposition attractive as there is no return likely from it. If they took on things like those they wouldn't be top business people with loads of cash.
Instead it's attractive to other kinds of people and it's just doomed to failure.
It's like pulling off a plaster for the RFL this. Rip it off its bad but then you can move on. Continue to tug away at it and prolong the agony.
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| The correspondence from RFL make it clear that they want owners to keep club in championship. Which means new owners need to pay championship wages. Difficult when you have previous debts, reduced grant and a lease to pay.
If one or two of those factors weren't there then the proposition of delivering RL in Bradford could comfortably break even or turn a profit.
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| Quote: ridlerbull "This is likely an unpopular position, but I do feel that Rugby League in this country is fundamentally damaged, and we are only going to see more and more of this sort of thing. If Bradford are genuinely no more at least me stake in it will already be gone.'"
I'm not sure too many will disagree to be honest. I would be very surprised if anyone came on and said that Rugby League in this country was better now then its ever been. Crowds are down, quality is way down, there is still only realistically 3 or 4 teams that are ever going to win anything, the salary cap has had the opposite effect - rather then levelling the playing field, it has made the gulf between the haves and haves nots even bigger. Those who can afford it, find a way round it with no consequences, yet the RFL pretend that its not happening and all teams have the same to spend on their squads.
I feel the whole system is broken now, and I'm not sure there is a way back.
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| Is Braveheart Mark Moore?
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| Quote: beefy1 "Is Braveheart Mark Moore?'"
Not sure but he's definitely got some kind of agenda. It's pretty f*cking irritating to be honest.
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| Quote: ridlerbull "Not sure but he's definitely got some kind of agenda. It's pretty f*cking irritating to be honest.'"
I have a mate on the same caravan site that he goes to and he's been involved in the bidding process with some pie in the sky plan for "fan involvement", whatever that means.
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| Quote: beefy1 "Is Braveheart Mark Moore?'"
Probably because his son on facebook was peddling the same nonsense.
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| I'm sure Moore was in talks with Green long before admin about buying/taking shares in what was our beloved Bulls... He had a backer with money...
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| Given the criteria laid out by the RFL for new ownership and the current situation regarding playing and coaching staff there is absolutely no chance of a new owner being found. It's just not practically possible.
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| Quote: fifty50 "Given the criteria laid out by the RFL for new ownership and the current situation regarding playing and coaching staff there is absolutely no chance of a new owner being found. It's just not practically possible.'"
In time for the new season. Agreed. Not a chance.
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| Quote: beefy1 "Is Braveheart Mark Moore?'"
Yes.
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