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| Knew Dave very well in a previous existence and I can confirm that if you cut him in two he would be red amber and black to the core.
Don't suppose that will make a hapeth of difference but I feel marginally better knowing that there is some emotion involved.
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| He might be a Bulls fan, but he's probably a Caisley fan too.
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| Just pay what you owe to the tax-payers of the UK then you can move forward.
Rugby League will continue to exist without the Bulls in Soooooooooper Dooooooper League.
Do the decent thing for once and start again without screwing the tax-payers of this country.
What does Guilfoyle think that he's doing when he sacks your coach and then asks him to work for nothing?
Sorry, but no sympathy from me and (I would imagine) the rest of the supportes of the local Championship clubs from which you've stolen the 'Glory Hunters' and our former supporters.
What's happened to the £500K that your loyal fans have already paid for nothing?
I'm looking forward to 'Gobby Paul' on 'The Superleague Show' (aka 'The Gobby Paul Show) this evening!
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| Just checked the video clip and I must say that no-one needs Bradford in Super League!
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| Quote: 666 "Just checked the video clip and I must say that no-one needs Bradford in Super League!'"
The clip wasn't intended to show you that Bradford deserved a place in super league! its there because people couldn't get to the meeting tonight, the room was too full.
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| Quote: AdeleMC "www.youtube.com/channel/UC81vGY_FaVUqajNW24-8xfg
i recorded some of the meeting if anyone couldnt go...'"
Thanks for taking the time to record and upload these, much appreciated
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| Quote: 666 "Just pay what you owe to the tax-payers of the UK then you can move forward.
Rugby League will continue to exist without the Bulls in Soooooooooper Dooooooper League.
Do the decent thing for once and start again without screwing the tax-payers of this country.
What does Guilfoyle think that he's doing when he sacks your coach and then asks him to work for nothing?
Sorry, but no sympathy from me and (I would imagine) the rest of the supportes of the local Championship clubs from which you've stolen the 'Glory Hunters' and our former supporters.
What's happened to the £500K that your loyal fans have already paid for nothing?
I'm looking forward to 'Gobby Paul' on 'The Superleague Show' (aka 'The Gobby Paul Show) this evening!'"
Sounds like you're not one of the tax-payers though, just some gobby little chav that's still so jealous of the Bulls even in our current situation that he has to come and spout e on our forum.
You'll be alright though, dole day tomorrow a few bags of drugs and a crate of stella and you'll be less depressed tomorrow.
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| Listened to the clips, thanks.
With what seams to be 2 warring parties, ie Hood Caisley. It's very hard to tell anything from the exchange about investors.
Both parties will know that this meeting was there to get their point across. Was the man talking about investors genuine? Or was he there to spread suspicion that CC has sown this up.
Where the people shouting him down independent or stooges of Caisley there to cover any talk of other interested parties.
It's a very messy thing indeed. The more and more I read and hear about this it seams that Bradford has been torn apart by it's own Shareholders and may still be continuing to do so.
The administrator well who knows, he says there is no interest, but then he says he has text's that he is chasing down, but he does not have voice mail????? If you were questioning the guy in court then that slight change in story would be pounced upon as not a reliable witness.
However it could just be that he was under pressure and he meant to say, there has been interest, but no solid offers. He also said people wanted up to date figures but he did not have them, because they had just changed the figures. Well he could still give the figures as were surely and pass on any changes.
As an outsider I don't know what to make of it, if your a bradford fan I suppose it depends which side of the war you are on as to what you take from it. If you take no side then I guess your just very very disallusioned
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| Quote: bewareshadows "Listened to the clips, thanks.
With what seams to be 2 warring parties, ie Hood Caisley. It's very hard to tell anything from the exchange about investors.
Both parties will know that this meeting was there to get their point across. Was the man talking about investors genuine? Or was he there to spread suspicion that CC has sown this up.
Where the people shouting him down independent or stooges of Caisley there to cover any talk of other interested parties.
It's a very messy thing indeed. The more and more I read and hear about this it seams that Bradford has been torn apart by it's own Shareholders and may still be continuing to do so.
The administrator well who knows, he says there is no interest, but then he says he has text's that he is chasing down, but he does not have voice mail????? If you were questioning the guy in court then that slight change in story would be pounced upon as not a reliable witness.
However it could just be that he was under pressure and he meant to say, there has been interest, but no solid offers. He also said people wanted up to date figures but he did not have them, because they had just changed the figures. Well he could still give the figures as were surely and pass on any changes.
As an outsider I don't know what to make of it, if your a bradford fan I suppose it depends which side of the war you are on as to what you take from it. If you take no side then I guess your just very very disallusioned'"
the man there was from greenwoods..................... and both disagreed with what they other was saying....
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| Quote: Bullpower2012 "Adey - will Bullbuilder be getting involved? or you inparticular? you have wealth of knowledge which will be too valuable for words in this current situation.
I wonder if some of your vocal detractors on here will show up?
time to for the Bulls fanbase to act as one, time for petty squabbles and arguments later'"
Well I went. And observed and listened. There was limited opportunity to contribute, and other than on one point I kept my own counsel.
In fact there seemed limited interest in our established, fully-empowered supporters' trust amongst the organising group. And little appetite it seemed to me for what I and my colleagues might be able to contribute. I'm quite relieved at that, though. I've spent 12 years seeking to try and help engage with the club through BISA, Foundation and Bullbuilder, and my missus was dreading me saying I had gone and got roped in again. My time has passed; its time for others now.
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| Quote: AdeleMC "www.youtube.com/channel/UC81vGY_FaVUqajNW24-8xfg
i recorded some of the meeting if anyone couldnt go...'"
Is that Terry Tibbs with a wig on? Defo looks like a syrup anyway.
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| I really feel for the Bradford fans as it appears you are powerless to do much other than let this situation play out.
One thing I will say is IF YOU ARE A SEASON TICKET HOLDER don't pay again for the next game to keep the club afloat.
That ship sailed when the 500K was raised in good faith and spent by the club.
The admin has suggested the RFL will pay player wages so any further funds just go into the pot for administrators fees and the creditors.
Its just throwing good money after bad.
If you want to support the club maybe pay it into a trust which is what in hindsight should have happened with the pledge.
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| I wasnt at the meeting last night, but thanks to those of you that were, and who have posted on here to keep us up to date!
I think Guilfoyle is one smart cookie! He sacked the staff yesterday knowing that the NOble rumour mill would start, and that would bring out a lot of anti Caisley feeling. He knew that a lot of emotions would be running high and that he could avoid or side step some deeper questions that he might not be comfortable answering.
There seems to be a lot of talk on here of a consortium involving the owners of greenwoods. Hopefully that comes to fruition. BUt heaven help us if Hood is involved. A club with Hood is better than no club, but only just. how long before we come down this road again?
Hopefully a new investor with no ties to Hood or Caisley will emerge, or even better a fan based ownership!
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| Though I couldn't even get in myself it sounds from the posts above that meeting unfortunately lacked any structure. Cannot help thinking if the fans had organised after the initial warnings started sounding by now they probably could have tabled an alternative plan and perhaps avoided some of the current carnage being inflicted.
However I know there are several contributors with some knowledge of the dark art of insolvency so maybe they could say if this is a fair summary of what the administrators game plan is: company in admin, all back office sacked, players wages funded by league? special no rent period agreed by grounds owners who just want the seasons fixtures played out - so bulk of the costs giving the monthly black hole vanished. On the other side I presume we will have 4 home games presumably all entrance pay on the gate - say min 25000 admissions at £20 = £500,000, maybe some sky money for the rest of the season. So no ongoing losses to support and at least £0.5m in income. So in such a situation creditors likely to get about £1 and Guilfoyle £500,000 in fees - then the rescue party rides in and picks up the remains for what I suspect would be a sum less than the pledge?
If only a fraction of the support and goodwill shown by fans, and the efforts of the team and coaching staff could have been organised we could have been in a much better place. As it is if a lifebelt is thrown to the remaining survivours at the end of the week I think the current farce will inevitably shrunk the fan base and main source of ongoing income even further.
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