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Quote: RagingBull "My 2 penneth for what its worth.

We have zero attacking threat from fullback. In todays game your number 1 needs to be a ball player. A 3rd half back. Kear at FB offers nothing. Ive banged on about it since pre season to anyone that would listen that we needed a fullback.

Foggy just doesnt cut it. Iknow people love hime for his effort, and dont get me wrong, he does at least try, but effort will only get u so far. Hes just not good enough.

Murphy in the centre does not work!

We must have the slowest half back combo in the league. Neither offer a running threat. At least patten can create. Lilley can go for me hes garbage.

The middles as we all know are to fat, slow with zero mobility. Walker being in tbe condition he is is a pi55 take to eveyone of his team mates that turn up in some short of shape.
Him and Crossley need to go. Balwinson is ok as a squad player. Maybe 5th or 6th choice that can drop in for the odd week here and there over the course of the season but isnt good enough to be in the 17 EVERY week.
Dunno whats happened to Scurr this year,not a patch on the player he was last season.

Back row is where we have the most stength in depth but everyone is crocked. But Kibula isnt a second rower! Hes a middle. Hes got the mobility and turning circle of the QE2. Massivly exposed defending on an edge. Some tough decisions to be made on who to retain and who to let go in the back row based on their injury records.

This one might be controversial but i dont think Hallas has done much since his return either. 2 many missed tackles, flying out of the line trying to put a shot on and missing. Again at least his effort it there.

This sqad that JK put together just doesnt cut it. Dont forget he tried to tell us all at the start of the year that we were going to be contenders! What an insult to our intelligence.

Huge changes needed, i just wish i had a magic wand or a euro millions win!

(Ill go get my tin hat!!)'"

Spot on with your comments, your fingers must have been hurting after typing that.

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An easy one is a straight swap, Rhys Evans for Murphy. Evans is by far and away our best defensive centre.
FB is tricky. Kear is defensively ok, but slow. Ok in 1/1 tackles. Hall is defensively poor. Burton is probably our next option for FB but is injured. That leaves Flanagan Jnr. Who is rapid, and a threat, but is 17. And him & his dad couldn’t play in the same team as if anyone went high on him, Flanagan snr would cop a massive ban attacking the opponent.
Props are a nightmare, I’ll think about it

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Quote: RagingBull "My 2 penneth for what its worth.

We have zero attacking threat from fullback. In todays game your number 1 needs to be a ball player. A 3rd half back. Kear at FB offers nothing. Ive banged on about it since pre season to anyone that would listen that we needed a fullback.

Foggy just doesnt cut it. Iknow people love hime for his effort, and dont get me wrong, he does at least try, but effort will only get u so far. Hes just not good enough.

Murphy in the centre does not work!

We must have the slowest half back combo in the league. Neither offer a running threat. At least patten can create. Lilley can go for me hes garbage.

The middles as we all know are to fat, slow with zero mobility. Walker being in tbe condition he is is a pi55 take to eveyone of his team mates that turn up in some short of shape.
Him and Crossley need to go. Balwinson is ok as a squad player. Maybe 5th or 6th choice that can drop in for the odd week here and there over the course of the season but isnt good enough to be in the 17 EVERY week.
Dunno whats happened to Scurr this year,not a patch on the player he was last season.

Back row is where we have the most stength in depth but everyone is crocked. But Kibula isnt a second rower! Hes a middle. Hes got the mobility and turning circle of the QE2. Massivly exposed defending on an edge. Some tough decisions to be made on who to retain and who to let go in the back row based on their injury records.

This one might be controversial but i dont think Hallas has done much since his return either. 2 many missed tackles, flying out of the line trying to put a shot on and missing. Again at least his effort it there.

This sqad that JK put together just doesnt cut it. Dont forget he tried to tell us all at the start of the year that we were going to be contenders! What an insult to our intelligence.

Huge changes needed, i just wish i had a magic wand or a euro millions win!

(Ill go get my tin hat!!)'"


Agree with all of that. Particularly Hallas. His discipline with and without the ball was shocking. Dunning made a big call in dropping Crossley when interim coach, be interesting if he makes a similar call with the likes of Hallas now he's permanent.

But even with all the above changes, the underlying problem was the attitude and complete lack of leadership on the field. Newcastle were emotional and it was a big occasion for them. We should have come out, biting on the gum shield and tried to take the sting out of the occasion in the opening minutes. First minute Newcastle walk straight through DFJ. We somehow managed to get back in the game with 5 mins left. Our attitude should have been to keep them out all all costs. Not only did we concede once but TWICE!! And then on the first set of the second half.

Dunning will get the flack but these players have churned out this garbage before under Kear. As another poster said, Dunning now has the power to make the appropriate changes.

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Does anyone know what allegations were made that resulted in the need for this statement? Thought I'd read all comments on official club pages and don't recall anything other than Nige being a bit rubbish as chairman, Seems a bit much just for that.

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Quote: Branded Bull "Does anyone know what allegations were made that resulted in the need for this statement? Thought I'd read all comments on official club pages and don't recall anything other than Nige being a bit rubbish as chairman, Seems a bit much just for that.'"

Something along the lines of pay me what I ask and I’ll sell the club.

Also some claiming he ran away from fans trying to ask him questions (this one is unlikely for obvious reasons) icon_lol.gif .

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The allegations obviously touched a nerve. Can't help but think that if he was a better communicator then rumours like the one referred to would never start in the first place.

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Quote: Bullseye "The allegations obviously touched a nerve. Can't help but think that if he was a better communicator then rumours like the one referred to would never start in the first place.'"

The issue of the lack of honest and open communication really isn't anything new. Why don't people who find themselves in a position of responsibility realise that effective communication doesn't cost anything; doesn't have to give away "trade secrets"; is good for the sole, and - in our case - might just result in keeping old and gaining new supporters.
Too many times the same problems keep cropping up, and the fans forums really don't get to the heart of the issues.

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Quote: bringbackjimmy "effective communication is good for the sole'"


Come on though try and walk a mile in Nigel's boots. He takes a shoeing off the fans - most of the stuff on the internet is cobblers but this accusation that he was on his toes at Newcastle is obviously his achilles heel.

I I think he sees that statement as a way of starting off the week on the right foot but I thinks it's had the opposite effect. Sorry just trying to shoehorn in some puns but put my foot in it.

Joking aside did anyone else notice the other person with a link to the club that was mentioned in the original social media post doing the rounds? If I were him I wouldn't be too pleased at being dragged into it.

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Wonder if any player is going to front up at the forum. Nigels taking the brunt of the stick, but quite frankly the players need to accept a large responsibility. Yes we're looking at becoming a very average championship team under Nigel, but that team of players should not be losing to a 12 man Fax team or being pumped by 50 against Newcastle.

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I hope somebody asks about the condition that the players are in. Completely and utterly unacceptable.

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Quote: Nothus "I hope somebody asks about the condition that the players are in. Completely and utterly unacceptable.'"


So somebody should ask Nigel of all people why so many of his playing staff are lardy gutted, is that right?

Monkey see, monkey do!

As for the official club statement, did no one with any nous proof read it before it was issued? icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Bent&Bongser "As for the official club statement, did no one with any nous proof read it before it was issued?
We've had no nous since about 2005.

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Just watched the game via FreeSports on Sky TV, and as previous people have said, the start was soft, abject and lethargic, but after getting in to the game, we let them back in for two soft tries. Newcastle even went to 12 men and we didn't capitalise.

We are painfully slow all over the paddock, the forwards are big but flabby and unfit. Crossley Flanagan Kibula, Walker etc.
Its difficult for Patten/Lilley to perform behind no go forward.

But what alarmed me most was the lack of input from Dunning, everytime the camera went to him he wasn't speaking, communicating with the bench etc Denis Betts spent the whole game by his dug out, directing, coaching, advising etc.

Its a worrying appointment is Dunning, a new coach with a fresh pair of eyes, perks everybody in the squad up.
Picking Dunning has given the Bulls no 'bounce' at all.

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Its now Tuesday evening and thus far no highlights package of FRIDAYS game have been circulated by the club across social media and no post match interviews either.

F*****g community clubs have better social media profiles than we do. Its absutely pathetic. On the field / off the field its an absolute s**t show at the minute.

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