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The more he talked of his honour,the faster we counted our spoons.:



I think Gale is a different player than he was when he played for us.Powell has worked wonders with him.

The guys gave everything,you can't ask for more.I think Bennett slipped up playing Bateman at as the ball died with him and Hall was starved of good quality ball.Percival would have been my choice.

Make no mistake the Aussies have a whole host of players ready to step up.Mcinnes at hooker for one.Of course Smith/Cronk/Slater have played together that long that they are telepathic so that will work in our favour until they get a settled spine,but as individuals they have just as good players waiting in the wings.
I think Bennett will move on so I would give that job to Daryl Powell.

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Quote: HamsterChops "You've also got to bear in mind that by the time the next World Cup rolls around, some of the big names that have made England's pack so good won't be there any more either.

Sean O'Loughlin will have long since retired. James Graham & James Roby will be 36, Chris Hill 34. You'll still have the likes of Sam Burgess (32) but other spaces will need the likes of Walmsley & Taylor to have stepped their game up to be in the same league.

Much like Australia's retiring spine is as good as it's been for a long time, so is England's pack. And both aren't going to be around next time.'"


Excellent points made here. Wonder if the next coach will be bold enough to play his pack of the future in the next round of internationals and drop the oldies in anticipation of the next WC.

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I'd prefer him to pick in form players as much as possible rather than blooding young players.

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Quote: Bullseye "I'd prefer him to pick in form players as much as possible rather than blooding young players.'"

I get why people take that position but with the national team playing so little rugby together over a calendar year I feel it is vitally important that the coach can build a consistent team with the same blokes who know how each other plays. What ai think is best isn't a case of blooding youngsters, more a long term team building philosophy, whilst of course bringing in the odd exceptional case. Continuity is key.

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I see Elliot Whitehead was the top tackler in the whole of the World Cup.No surprise as he was the top tackler in the whole NRL in 2016.

The guys who have run the Bulls into the ground have a lot to answer for.Criminal what's happened at Odsal.

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Quote: madasmcmadammcmad2 "I see Elliot Whitehead was the top tackler in the whole of the World Cup.No surprise as he was the top tackler in the whole NRL in 2016.

The guys who have run the Bulls into the ground have a lot to answer for.Criminal what's happened at Odsal.'"


Just go upto Odsal now and get the answers, few of those people are still there.

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I'm afraid all major the decision makers are long gone; there's little point in blaming the NCOs when the generals screw up.

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Indeed. Saw an article on social media where Steve Ferres has been appointed in a senior management role for some sports development company (footballl related IIRC). In blurb they mentioned he had a long history with Bradford Bulls and Northern. They obviously didnt dig too deep into his association with Bulls and checked what he'd achieved in his role. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: mat "Indeed. Saw an article on social media where Steve Ferres has been appointed in a senior management role for some sports development company (footballl related IIRC). In blurb they mentioned he had a long history with Bradford Bulls and Northern. They obviously didnt dig too deep into his association with Bulls and checked what he'd achieved in his role.
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I think they did - Mark Winder, the CEO of goalball, used to be or still is CEO of the Bradford Bulls Foundation.
Quote: mat "Indeed. Saw an article on social media where Steve Ferres has been appointed in a senior management role for some sports development company (footballl related IIRC). In blurb they mentioned he had a long history with Bradford Bulls and Northern. They obviously didnt dig too deep into his association with Bulls and checked what he'd achieved in his role.
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I think they did - Mark Winder, the CEO of goalball, used to be or still is CEO of the Bradford Bulls Foundation.


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To be fair we could say all day what if etc. But of the likes of Whitehead, Bateman, T.Burgess etc hadn't moved on would they have improved the way they have and become internationals? Highly doubt it.

In terms of future players, I am already worrying about the potential team including Ponga, T. Trbojevic, Holmes, Gagai, Mitchell, Watson, Munster, Cleary, J. Trbojevic and of course the upcoming half and hooker at Melbourne Brodie Croft and Brandon Smith.

But as people have said, the spine of Slater, Thurston, Cronk and Smith are future immortals and I have never seen 4 Immortals in the same side before. That is a once in a lifetime spine.

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Quote: Bulls Boy 2011 "To be fair we could say all day what if etc. But of the likes of Whitehead, Bateman, T.Burgess etc hadn't moved on would they have improved the way they have and become internationals? Highly doubt it.

In terms of future players, I am already worrying about the potential team including Ponga, T. Trbojevic, Holmes, Gagai, Mitchell, Watson, Munster, Cleary, J. Trbojevic and of course the upcoming half and hooker at Melbourne Brodie Croft and Brandon Smith.

But as people have said, the spine of Slater, Thurston, Cronk and Smith are future immortals and I have never seen 4 Immortals in the same side before. That is a once in a lifetime spine.'"


Ponga is a real talent. Some of the stuff he was doing at the 9s tournament at the start of this year was crazy.

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Quote: Bulls Boy 2011 "To be fair we could say all day what if etc. But of the likes of Whitehead, Bateman, T.Burgess etc hadn't moved on would they have improved the way they have and become internationals? Highly doubt it.

In terms of future players, I am already worrying about the potential team including Ponga, T. Trbojevic, Holmes, Gagai, Mitchell, Watson, Munster, Cleary, J. Trbojevic and of course the upcoming half and hooker at Melbourne Brodie Croft and Brandon Smith.

But as people have said, the spine of Slater, Thurston, Cronk and Smith are future immortals and I have never seen 4 Immortals in the same side before. That is a once in a lifetime spine.'"


Thought Brandon Smith was a Kiwi, not that it makes much difference to Australia. I had a dig at Scott Sattler on Twitter. He was answering a Stev Mascord tweet asking what changes would people like to see for next world cup. He had the nerve to say English video refs!!!

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According to the trade press Canberra are interested in Oliver Roberts.
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Quote: DrFeelgood "Excellent points made here. Wonder if the next coach will be bold enough to play his pack of the future in the next round of internationals and drop the oldies in anticipation of the next WC.'"

I reckon we stage it to try and only lose one per year if we can, rather than ditch them all at once. Form dependent obviously. Give ourselves chance to blood players in a strong team. Potential last tours as follows, the age the player will be at that time in brackets

2017 - Lockers (35)
2018 - Roby (33)
2019 - Graham (34)
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2021 - Whitehead (33)
2022 - S.Burgess (34) and Hodgson (33)

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Quote: Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza "According to the trade press Canberra are interested in Oliver Roberts.
J Peacock
S Burgess
T Burgess
G Burgess
E Whitehead
C Naughton
Joe Wardle
Oliver Roberts ?

Anymore ex. Bradford juniors to go out to Australia?'"


Don't know whose vehicle doubles as the 'Yorkshire Bus' but it had better be a big one - with some decent springs..

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