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Quote: Bulls4Champs "No.

Don't particularly care. The game is boring on the whole. Has been for a long time.

I've never known anything so amateurish. Can you imagine any other sport being run like RL is?'"


But Bulls for champs surely? Not Bulls for Champs 1

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The question was will restructuring happen - the obvious answer is of course it will.

RL is a sport in decline and needs a rethink, licensing will come back and I have no idea why it was abandoned - other than for a clamour for manufactured P+R, which achieves absolutely nothing when there are only 3-4 clubs outside of SL capable of sustaining top flight rugby.

If a team with a rich owner comes along now and then and they want a ticket to the party, manage their entry and expand the league to accommodate them, so many examples of successful expansion in other sports - but there are only so many players to go around.

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Quote: Frank Whitcombe "The question was will restructuring happen - the obvious answer is of course it will.

RL is a sport in decline and needs a rethink, licensing will come back and I have no idea why it was abandoned - other than for a clamour for manufactured P+R, which achieves absolutely nothing when there are only 3-4 clubs outside of SL capable of sustaining top flight rugby.

If a team with a rich owner comes along now and then and they want a ticket to the party, manage their entry and expand the league to accommodate them, so many examples of successful expansion in other sports - but there are only so many players to go around.'"

True enough, Frank.

On there, "only being enough players to go round," I think the idea is that totally new clubs, from areas outside the usual 'heartland' areas first become established within their own communities and then start to recruit locally. Obviously this won't happen overnight or even over a 'a few' years, but the hope is that when new areas, or countries, take up the game as a spectator interest then interest in playing the game will naturally follow. Whether we can cope with the interim period is the big test, particularly if we try it in too many new areas at the same time.

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Hearing that two divisions of 14 for championship and league 1, to be announced after the championship shield final.

I don't what that means for the Bulls, neither did the chap who works for the club who told me at today's game.

He also suggested SL will expand to 14 teams under licencing, from 2019 with all teams required to run Academies and Reserve teams and meet minimum stadia standards - hinted that some merger discussions would be encouraged by the RFL to make some teams stronger.

Back to the future eh! icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Frank Whitcombe "Hearing that two divisions of 14 for championship and league 1, to be announced after the championship shield final.

I don't what that means for the Bulls, neither did the chap who works for the club who told me at today's game.

He also suggested SL will expand to 14 teams under licencing, from 2019 with all teams required to run Academies and Reserve teams and meet minimum stadia standards - hinted that some merger discussions would be encouraged by the RFL to make some teams stronger.

Back to the future eh!

IF it goes to 12/14/14 then you'd have to think there would be no relegation from the Championship. Relegating the Bulls and Oldham and promoting Whitehaven and York would seem a bit silly, frankly.

Obviously still an IF... icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Frank Whitcombe "Hearing that two divisions of 14 for championship and league 1, to be announced after the championship shield final.

I don't what that means for the Bulls, neither did the chap who works for the club who told me at today's game.

He also suggested SL will expand to 14 teams under licencing, from 2019 with all teams required to run Academies and Reserve teams and meet minimum stadia standards - hinted that some merger discussions would be encouraged by the RFL to make some teams stronger.

Back to the future eh!
So basically reversing all the changes they made over the last 5 years icon_lol.gif
What a shambles.

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A 14 team championship, Bulls saying at least 13 home games next season. Are the jigsaw pieces been put together yet

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Well was speaking to a friend of mine at our game yesterday who knows and used to play with jas. he was speaking to him and said that he was adamant the bulls were t going down. Make of that what you will but if the chairman is going round making such noises surely there's something in it

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Quote: thepimp007 "the bulls were t going down.'"


Is your 'n' key broken?

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Quote: Frank Whitcombe "Hearing that two divisions of 14 for championship and league 1, to be announced after the championship shield final.

I don't what that means for the Bulls, neither did the chap who works for the club who told me at today's game.

He also suggested SL will expand to 14 teams under licencing, from 2019 with all teams required to run Academies and Reserve teams and meet minimum stadia standards - hinted that some merger discussions would be encouraged by the RFL to make some teams stronger.

Back to the future eh! Has someone been clearing the Gregg's bags off of Nigel's desk and found the original SL plans?

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Quote: Nothus "Is your 'n' key broken?'"


Haha silly phones!! Although could be trying to make it sound more Yorkshire than it reads

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Hi folks, great day today. We were there. The news about Chisholm is very promising, along with the three youngster signings. I cannot help but think that there is still 'stuff' going on behind the scenes. I am not sure that the Bulls will be saved from Championship 1, in the next five months, but still believe that things at Salford and therefore Manchester Rangers & Swinton may change for 2019.
If you were in the Top House before the game you were involved in a similar conversation, (just before the crisp packet icon_smile.gif )
I do hope that conversation was founded on information from elsewhere and not from a speculative post I made several weeks ago. If that is the case, that may add some veracity to the speculation. Again I do NOT know that this happening for certain, but lots of discussions and jigsaw pieces coming together. There may be light at the end of the tunnel, hopefully sooner than later, but definitely there, shining through.
Hope you enjoyed today folks. It was great to see some smiles at Odsal, even if just in relief at seeing a decent performance.
Keep everything crossed.

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Interesting watch, fair to say Tony Smith isnt a fan of the current structure! And very honest to say in Featherstone that maybe Fev shouldnt be allowed in if they dont meet certain criteria! With the point he makes being that it might not be good for the club if they're not ready and get more results like todays I presume? If the RFL are bringing back a form of licencing for 2019 I wonder how they have arrived (or will arrive) at that decision? What evidence have they looked at? and who have they talked to? Presumably at least passed it by the paymasters at sky?? And will we get to see a published review that supports any change for 2018 or 2019? As a sport we need to find the least worst structure that we think can grow the sport (not just geographically) then stick to it and make it a success, whatever that means for my own club (in the previous licening period we should have had our licence revoked and told to go away and rebuild outside SL), or the sport will diminish to (even further) insignificance.

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Interesting watch, fair to say Tony Smith isnt a fan of the current structure! And very honest to say in Featherstone that maybe Fev shouldnt be allowed in if they dont meet certain criteria! With the point he makes being that it might not be good for the club if they're not ready and get more results like todays I presume? If the RFL are bringing back a form of licencing for 2019 I wonder how they have arrived (or will arrive) at that decision? What evidence have they looked at? and who have they talked to? Presumably at least passed it by the paymasters at sky?? And will we get to see a published review that supports any change for 2018 or 2019? As a sport we need to find the least worst structure that we think can grow the sport (not just geographically) then stick to it and make it a success, whatever that means for my own club (in the previous licening period we should have had our licence revoked and told to go away and rebuild outside SL), or the sport will diminish to (even further) insignificance.'"


With regards sky isn't their deal up end of 2018? I think that's why they are waiting until 2019 for a restructure as they committed to 3 years of the current and the sky deal was for 3 years. The RFL really need to go to town this next time round to get a better deal up the salary cap and start slightly bridging the massive gap between us and the NRL

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Quote: thepimp007 "With regards sky isn't their deal up end of 2018? I think that's why they are waiting until 2019 for a restructure as they committed to 3 years of the current and the sky deal was for 3 years. The RFL really need to go to town this next time round to get a better deal up the salary cap and start slightly bridging the massive gap between us and the NRL'"


Almost certain the sky deal has quite a few years still to run. No way is it up for renewal at the end of 2018.

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