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| The only expectation I have for next year is I expect Keighley will beat us at some stage, being the only displeasurable thing left that hasn't yet happened to us in the past 6 years.
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "The issue for me is not getting out of that league, although I have doubts about the likelihood of that happening, it's the lack of money - it is litle use even if we did manage to get promoted back to the Championship, if we enter it with a significantly worse squad of players than everyone else in that division, and if we remain without any money to move up a few gears back to similar wages bill as 2017.
We self-declared as having no big money to spend on players, and we've self-declared that we are not only not looking for investors, but we've actually knocked a few back.
So my concern is that the whole thing makes no immediate financial sense. Yes, you can probably end up being competitive in C1 on a shoestring, but there will be plenty of tough games if you pitch and construct your own squad on a C1 basis; surely the aim should be to become the new Toronto? But without any money, let alone substantial money, there's more chance of us becoming the old Bulls, and going tits.
If ChaLow have indeed worked out a way to "cut our cloth" which doesn't involve them actually investing in any decent new quality cloth from their own pockets, then whilst we may remain solvent (for once), we won't be cracking any pots.
And my problem with that is, if all is as I summarise - then what is the point? I mean, is proving you can run a team in C1 without putting in any significant moeny, and break even, a worthwhile aim? I still don't get it.'"
Other teams have managed to do it though, look at Rochdale and Oldham. If we ever do come back up then I think we could manage to do something similar.
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| Quote: Bullseye "
I think the real problem comes when you get in the championship and want to get promoted to SL. That's not happening to anyone unless you spend big and that's not happening with us.'"
Thats either going to be new stadium/income generation possibilities +/- a core of quality academy players who have come through together and are willing to pen 2yr deals to give us a shot. Or we tick enough boxes of the presumed franchising model with the two items above & get placed there directly. I would think.
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| Quote: Highlander "Thats either going to be new stadium/income generation possibilities +/- a core of quality academy players who have come through together and are willing to pen 2yr deals to give us a shot. Or we tick enough boxes of the presumed franchising model with the two items above & get placed there directly. I would think.'"
Probably. But I think we're getting ahead of ourselves. Until there's something official comes out about the stadium I find it hard to believe it will happen - too many false dawns in the past. I also think if we're to get a core of decent academy players to come through and stick together we have to give them a reason to stay at the club. A new ground would be a tangible way of showing better times are coming. Otherwise they'll get picked off just like the others. Kids want to be successful and it's a short career.
So we need both to happen to get out of the Championship OR a multi millionaire that wants to throw some money away comes along!
Until then it's C1. Interesting that the threads about 2018 have been so popular. It's as if we want 2017 out of the way as soon as possible
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| Quote: Nothus "Other teams have managed to do it though, look at Rochdale and Oldham. If we ever do come back up then I think we could manage to do something similar.'"
Yes, look at them.
But I don't want to be Rochdale nor oldham, with respect etc., nor is being a Rochdale ever going to work for a club like Bradford. We'd almost certainly fold, but even if no, we'd be pointless.
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Yes, look at them.
But I don't want to be Rochdale nor oldham, with respect etc., nor is being a Rochdale ever going to work for a club like Bradford. We'd almost certainly fold, but even if no, we'd be pointless.'"
My point was that it's possible to come up and stay up. Those clubs have managed it, presumably on far fewer resources than we would be in such a position. The idea is to then build on that rather than tread water.
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| I doubt - if we have the rent and upkeep to pay - that practically any Championship club would be on less net resources than us
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "if we have the rent and upkeep to pay '"
That's the big question isn't it? If we're lumbered with that I can't see us making it to the end of next season.
If we're not for some reason then we can probably muddle through.
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| Don't forget there is big decision from the courts to come in January - we haven't made it to the start of the season yet.
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| Forgot about that.
Another reason to hold back buying those season tickets - might be a case of deja vu otherwise.
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| Quote: amberavenger "The only expectation I have for next year is I expect Keighley will beat us at some stage, being the only displeasurable thing left that hasn't yet happened to us in the past 6 years.'"
I'm calling it now... the supposedly random RFL computer generated fixture list will 'just happen' to give us Keighley away on the first day of next season (just like it did with Leigh in 2015)
And, furthermore, our 'new look team will get beaten up - and beaten on the scoreboard - by the Cougars, triggering several weeks of taunting on this forum from Cougar fans about how it is 'justice' for whatever happened back in 1995.
You know it's going to happen
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| Quote: Bullseye "Forgot about that.
Another reason to hold back buying those season tickets - might be a case of deja vu otherwise.'"
Problem for the owners is that has the risk of being a self fulfilling prophecy. Fans don't buy season tickets in case the club folds in off season due to not having enough cash, and the fans lose money and season tickets, so club folds in the off season as they don't have the cash from fans money from season tickets.
Needs lots of positive news early in the off season.
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| On the poll, not clicked an option yet as currently I suspect we have no players and no coach 100% on board for next season, so it's completely unknown. I'm hoping for recruitment to point to a push for automatic promotion, but I'll wait and see.
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| Quote: thepimp007 "This post should be emailed, posted and even sent by Raven to the club'"
I've commanded my Maester to send a raven to Odsal with delay
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| Quote: paulwalker71 "I've commanded my Maester to send a raven to Odsal with delay'"
Haha what we would give for the three eyed raven to look into the future
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