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| It's not yourself that I doubt I'm sure you will report what you were told honestly and accurate, though admittedly I don't know you from Adam!
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| Well both Fr13daY and FA seem quite positive which is a good sign. My concerns would be that if good news is around the corner why the club is being run so amateurishly now and people being needlessly alienated?
The latest c0ck up being ban on food and drink being brought into the stadium. Facebook is full of accounts of people being told they couldn't bring flasks and sandwiches into the stadium and them deciding not to bother coming in as a result. Utter madness.
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| Quote: Fr13daY "Yeah, it was a lighthearted comment to the question at the end of an hour of us grilling him. They are aware of this now and hopefully this issue will now go away. We did point out that it makes the club look foolish.'"
Interested to know if he said this was the first time it's been mentioned?
In a previous, happier, life I worked in the marketing team for for one of the mobile networks for several years.
I've contacted the club twice outlining my experience (was responsible for the proofing of copy and making amendments for campaigns/comms to 22m customers blah blah blah), the people I still work with (and can pester for more help) and offering time to proof comms for them. No response at all.
I'm far from the most literate person on the planet but am light years ahead of the Pigeon English employed at the minute.
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| Quote: roofaldo2 "I have to say, without an actual public declaration, which is something the club is lacking in providing, I really am leaning towards the belief that there will be no Bradford Bulls in 2018 and the only reason these guys got the club is because the RFL wanted to put people in charge who'd at least ensure there was a club to see out the fixtures that were already in place in order for other clubs to get a pay day when the Bulls come for a visit.
I have no faith in the club or the RFL and I honestly feel that 2017 is the last year there will be professional rugby league in Bradford'"
I feel the RFL want the Bulls to survive and succeed. I don't believe they just want us to fulfill out the fixtures and then die. Have you seen some of the crowds in SL? HOWEVER, whether they are competent enough to deal with that is another matter. They lurch from one disaster to another.
I look forward to seeing the answers. FA i know was particularly aggrieved with some of the things going on so if he's feeling more positive from the meeting, then that's good.
If the club can get some of the absolute basics right I.E making sure press releases are grammatically correct, stop with cock-ups like banning food, then that will go along way. I really hope they sack the person who's doing the press releases (i don't want anyone to lose their job, but if you can't do the job you're paid for, you shouldn't be in it i'm afraid) Give it to a fan who i'm sure would do it for free.
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| Looking forward to this being posted up
Although I still will need a bit of convincing that we're not being fed a load of bull. To clarify, I have no problem with the two guys from this forum, its the guy across the table that I might have some problem believing!
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| Quote: Bull Mania "If the club can get some of the absolute basics right I.E making sure press releases are grammatically correct, stop with cock-ups like banning food, then that will go along way. I really hope they sack the person who's doing the press releases (i don't want anyone to lose their job, but if you can't do the job you're paid for, you shouldn't be in it i'm afraid) Give it to a fan who i'm sure would do it for free.'"
That's exactly the way it is. I don't know the lad from Adam. He may be the nicest guy on the planet or he might be a total piece of crap. It's irrelevant. If I was god awful at my job, I would expect to be relieved of it, regardless of whether I made a good cup of tea or not (unless I was a tealady obviously). And he is awful at his job.
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| Quote: paulwalker71 "Looking forward to this being posted up
Although I still will need a bit of convincing that we're not being fed a load of bull. To clarify, I have no problem with the two guys from this forum, its the guy across the table that I might have some problem believing!'"
Yeah, as I said before I can only report on what I have been told. He seemed enthusiastic and knowledgeable, and didn't dodge any of our questions (even when I asked him if he was a RFL stooge sent to skin us poor fans one last time).
Personally speaking, I was pretty disconsolate with the club this year, but after talking to him I will be getting a season ticket next year. He deffo sold me that!
I did also say that if only he could speak to everyone like he spoke to us many nerves would be allayed and we can start looking forward to what promises to be a bright future. Just not in the short term....
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| Quote: Fr13daY "Yeah, as I said before I can only report on what I have been told. He seemed enthusiastic and knowledgeable, and didn't dodge any of our questions (even when I asked him if he was a RFL stooge sent to skin us poor fans one last time).
Personally speaking, I was pretty disconsolate with the club this year, but after talking to him I will be getting a season ticket next year. He deffo sold me that!
I did also say that if only he could speak to everyone like he spoke to us many nerves would be allayed and we can start looking forward to what promises to be a bright future. Just not in the short term....'"
I like the noises that are coming from you. You are giving me hope.
Thank you.
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| I've got just one question.
If the owners are happy to speak to a couple of fans, in person, before the game, and then have the results of that meeting put on a message board, then why the hell don't they just organise a proper forum and speak to the fans en masse? Are they just shy? Jesus, they might even sell a drop of beer...
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| Quote: Bulliac "I've got just one question.
If the owners are happy to speak to a couple of fans, in person, before the game, and then have the results of that meeting put on a message board, then why the hell don't they just organise a proper forum and speak to the fans en masse? Are they just shy? Jesus, they might even sell a drop of beer...'"
Or even a simple "send us in your questions, we'll collate them, and then post something on the website with all the answers" would do the job. Ok, we might struggle to read the answers if they don't type them personally and they let their "media executive" do it, but I would think it would be quite easy for them to do that and it could be of very large benefit in getting some supporters back on side.
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| because on here is not an official bulls source so if the RFL were to kick off about plans been leaked it hasn't come directly from the club?
They can say "it wasn't us that dun it guvnor"
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| Quote: Bulliac "I've got just one question.
If the owners are happy to speak to a couple of fans, in person, before the game, and then have the results of that meeting put on a message board, then why the hell don't they just organise a proper forum and speak to the fans en masse? Are they just shy? Jesus, they might even sell a drop of beer...'"
Well, yes we put that to him (as there was only Andrew Chalmers there) too.
He said that he wanted to get the building blocks of the club stable before approaching the fans. He realises we have sold a load of in the past and doesn't want to do that, however we did say that the lack of contact was very concerning, and the dearth of information just set rife rumour none of which can be good for the club. We did say that communication with the fans was essential and he did recognise that though. Although we are halfway through the season they have only been in charge for 4 months; a matter of weeks really, and this was from a carte blanche start; no players, no staff, no offices, no training ground, they didn't even have a photocopier so it is a building process and more fan-club contact will be imminent.
We suggested an 'ask Andrew' email address in which he could answer questions and put them on the website initially, although a fans forum is in the offing, as well as some focus groups which are happening now (apparently).
I've written up what I can remember and sent it to FA to add/change/update. When he has done that I'll send it to AC asking him to verify we haven't misrepresented him and then I'll put it up here. And answer any questions you may have, that we can answer too.
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| Quote: HamsterChops "Or even a simple "send us in your questions, we'll collate them, and then post something on the website with all the answers" would do the job. Ok, we might struggle to read the answers if they don't type them personally and they let their "media executive" do it, but I would think it would be quite easy for them to do that and it could be of very large benefit in getting some supporters back on side.'"
Ha! Exactly! Thats just what we said!
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| Quote: bull on a canary "I'm assuming that the visa for Toovey will be covered. Did I hear Mick make some reference to him having returned (or going to return) to Australia recently (or soon) on BCB yesterday?'"
Not quite as far as Australia, but he's applied for it outside of the United Kingdom and should be here this week.
I will keep you posted.
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| Quote: MicktheGled "Not quite as far as Australia, but he's applied for it outside of the United Kingdom and should be here this week.
I will keep you posted.'"
What do you mean applied for it outside of the United Kingdom?
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