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| Quote: herr rigsby "Toronto away sounds good'"
In other words, Toronto at home
Toronto play 'home' cup games at the other teams ground
Frankly, a home draw isn't what we need. A home game means we have to open Odsal and that costs a LOT of money, which would probably be barely covered by the pitiful crowds that tend to be attracted by cup games. Especially when we have to give half of our gate receipts to the other team.
So the [ilast[/i thing we need is a home tie against Gloucester All Golds, as it will only benefit them. What we really need is somewhere like Hunslet or Keighley away - where the other lot have all the outlay, we take a load of support and we get 50% of the gate
#win
Watch us get Oxford at home
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| Quote: paulwalker71 "In other words, Toronto at home
Toronto play 'home' cup games at the other teams ground
Frankly, a home draw isn't what we need. A home game means we have to open Odsal and that costs a LOT of money, which would probably be barely covered by the pitiful crowds that tend to be attracted by cup games. Especially when we have to give half of our gate receipts to the other team.
So the [i]last[/i] thing we need is a home tie against Gloucester All Golds, as it will only benefit them. What we really need is somewhere like Hunslet or Keighley away - where the other lot have all the outlay, we take a load of support and we get 50% of the gate
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Watch us get Oxford at home
Didn't realise that was the case with Toronto's cup games
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| Keighley at home they won't be so lucky this time
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| I thought Toronto's 'home' games in the cup were played at Manchester Regional Ground? The one next to Etihad?
As for the cup I'd actually like an easy tie! Haven't had one since Rochdale in 2013! So I'd like Haydock away. Take a good following and help them get a good gate. Then get a money spinner at Headingley in Round 5.
Failing that. I would love Keighley away. Haven't played a competitive match against them in years. Have a soft spot for Keighley as I was on scholarship there so it would be nice to get them a good crowd and a good local derby!
But I want Leeds away in the next round no matter what, for money, for TV coverage and it will be a loss so we don't have to worry later on the season about cup and league games each week. So we will get a week off here and there to recover which will be important for our survival. Hope KR go to the final again, and have the same effect on their league games as it did last time haha!
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| Quote: Bulls Boy 2011 "I thought Toronto's 'home' games in the cup were played at Manchester Regional Ground? The one next to Etihad? '"
Not what they said on the BBC Coverage of the earlier rounds. They said Toronto if drawn at home, would actually just be away to the team they were drawn against.
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| Quote: HamsterChops "Not what they said on the BBC Coverage of the earlier rounds. They said Toronto if drawn at home, would actually just be away to the team they were drawn against.'"
Ah! Fair enough! I suppose it will still boost the home crowd as a few people will go just because it's Toronto. The novelty is still there. Really looking forward to seeing how they get on over in Canada and looking at what sort of crowds they can get!
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| Bullseye had it right first post. Easy tie now, Leeds away in the next round.
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| Quote: HamsterChops "Not what they said on the BBC Coverage of the earlier rounds. They said Toronto if drawn at home, would actually just be away to the team they were drawn against.'"
If they have to play over here (and I can understand that), then playing at the other club's ground is the obvious way to maximise income/minimise losses. Playing at some other, sort of neutral ground, other than being a tiny bit fairer to Toronto, is a recipe to lose (even more) money. Can you imagine the gate, Toronto against, ...well pick a team, at a neutral ground in the UK?
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| Quote: Bulliac "If they have to play over here (and I can understand that), then playing at the other club's ground is the obvious way to maximise income/minimise losses. Playing at some other, sort of neutral ground, other than being a tiny bit fairer to Toronto, is a recipe to lose (even more) money. Can you imagine the gate, Toronto against, ...well pick a team, at a neutral ground in the UK?'"
Totally agree, a neutral ground is totally nonsensical. The best crowd they could possibly get is the tie being at the other team's ground, if as you say they are not allowed to play them at home.
The only reason for doing neutral grounds is if a club's own stadium isn't up to the fixture (in which case, it's usually as local as possible) or if you're trying to spread the game. But spreading the game doesn't really work with a brand new team against another low league side, so really isn't an argument in this case.
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| I hope we don't get Toronto. I would like to see them get through because I have a feeling they would draw Leigh in the next round.
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| Only last year's SL bottom four are in the next round, so no Cas/Saints. Does include Leeds though (along with Salford, Hudds and Leigh), so should we get through this round, probably our best chance of playing them competitively in the next few years, considering neither of us look likely to trouble the middle 8s any time soon.
Of course, we have to get their first. Bet we draw Hull KR this round.
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| Bulls -v- Leeds at Odsal for any reason whatsoever would get a huge crowd and would do wonders for the finances. Normally nobody comes to Cup early round games but I can guarantee that one would be different.
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Bulls -v- Leeds at Odsal for any reason whatsoever would get a huge crowd and would do wonders for the finances. Normally nobody comes to Cup early round games but I can guarantee that one would be different.'"
Agree with everything you say there! Would be a huge crowd for that! Although I would prefer it at Headingley so we don't have to pay for Odsal opening up. Plus I think the crowd would be bigger at their ground and it's 50/50 anywhere no matter where it's played.
I wonder if Leeds would at least allow us to play Hallas, Jordan-Roberts and Oledzki as I can't see Leeds wanting them for later rounds of the cup! They might need Lilley though!
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| Toronto will bring maybe ........1 supporter.............Nobby!
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| Quote: Bulls Boy 2011 "Agree with everything you say there! Would be a huge crowd for that! Although I would prefer it at Headingley so we don't have to pay for Odsal opening up. Plus I think the crowd would be bigger at their ground and it's 50/50 anywhere no matter where it's played.
I wonder if Leeds would at least allow us to play Hallas, Jordan-Roberts and Oledzki as I can't see Leeds wanting them for later rounds of the cup! They might need Lilley though!'"
Its not 50/50 anymore. Was changed a few years back. RFL get a small percentage towards the cup winners fund. then host club get to deduct a percentage for expense of hosting game. Whats left over is then split between the teams.
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