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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Er, that wouldn't be a sugar daddy though now would it. Your model is "one who gets other people to put all the money in", isn't it?'"


Yeah.

There is no "sustainable model". Apart from Leeds all clubs require an input of cash from owners/directors to stay afloat. RL is not a money making business. Wigan and Saints for instance rely to some extent on the contributions of their respective owners.

Even if you're Leeds you can still mess up. They needed bailing out bigtime in 95/96 and Caddick guaranteed all their debts. Since then they've been run properly.

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Quote: Pumpetypump "I'd rather have the rollercoaster ride of a rich nutter than the lingering death we are enduring now.'"


I put £20 towards the juniors every year - does that count?

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "I really have no clue WTF is happening. Anyone?'"


Potential club motto there I reckon, and no, I also have no clue but was expecting either up (new monied owner) or down (even more broke and into part time land)....not steady away as she goes. Im still waiting for the other shoe to drop.

On the OP, I voted Yes, SL rather than champ, and if it needs a rich owner then yes please. But one isn't coming, so we'll just have to focus on the youth structure and do the best with what we've got.

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Vere fit Haters uestigia ulla exstare. Quis?

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Er, that wouldn't be a sugar daddy though now would it. Your model is "one who gets other people to put all the money in", isn't it?'"


Not really.

It would require huge sums from them to make the club successful and so attractive enough to attract further investment. Definitely sugar daddy territory.

And by other revenue streams I don't necessarily mean getting others to put their money in but rather looking at how the club itself can generate further revenue alongside the traditional ticket sales, merch etc.

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Quote: Scarey71 "Not really.

It would require huge sums from them to make the club successful and so attractive enough to attract further investment. '"

"Attract further investment"? this is just accountant-speak, in reality no rugby league club is ever going to attract "investors", now is it?
Do you ever have an "hyperbole - off" mode

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He doesn't in this case but underneath it he makes a valid point.

Simply running the business better might bring in a few quid more but in most cases it's not going to be enough without an owner subsidising it.

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Have they completely explored the Bulls branded baby bib market though?

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Pop concerts anyone?

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Can't we have an option: 'someone with as much money as a Degsy or Koucash, but not a complete tool'?

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No, we don't need to get someone to put money in, that would be hype, what we need is to "attract further investment".

And we don't need to get more cash in, what we need to do is "generate further revenue streams".

I get it now. Sorry, sorry, I have been successful in acquiring a measure of understanding at this moment in time.

How am I doing?

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Quote: Scarey71 "Do you ever have an "hyperbole - off" mode'"


Nothing hyperbolic about it. It's true there's been some bolics in this thread, but not from me.

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Quote: paulwalker71 "Can't we have an option
Think it goes with the territory. You;d have to be a bit of a tool to invest in RL.

Just been on the Giants board and some people are criticising Ken Davy. A serious dose of reality is required.

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Quote: rugbyreddog "Think it goes with the territory. You;d have to be a bit of a tool to invest in RL.

Just been on the Giants board and some people are criticising Ken Davy. A serious dose of reality is required.'"

You've asked for it, and here it is2010 was a season to forget. We had no chance of emulating the performances of our near neighbours and needed to return to the lower division. Sadly, although the coach did his absolute best to give us what we wanted, two other teams apparently wanted it more. A financially draining experience.

2011, with the season just finished we were once more denied our objective. We drilled into the players and staff the necessity of playing in the lower division. Unfortunately, too many reverted to type and tried to win games we should have lost. These people were weeded out and we finished in our desired relegation spot. Then the RFL poked their noses in and gave us an unwanted repreive. Another season in the highest division may result in the demise of our club. We can never match the achievments of our neighbours who have fans able to appreciate their board of directors, their coach and their players.

We hope, by publishing this website, we can drag our fans heads out of the sand and make them see the real life situation at our club.[/i

The RFL seem to want two models of funding and development: sugar daddies, as discussed on this thread, and Academy Daddies, as we appear to have now. My vote is therefore for the Academy Daddy and home bred success

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