If we're short on numbers I'm willing to bring my boots. I'll probably offer more than the shower that was on offer this afternoon.

Hobbo said the finals day is at Featherstone because of halifax and bradford

I think the club need to move quickly to inform the fans of what will happen next season - FT/PT, squad size, management/coaching structure, continuing youth development plans, etc. They're gonna have to give the fans a huge sell if they want people through the gates for the shield, and even next year.

How can they, whatever third rate fare may be affordable, they can't commit to much before they can quantify the extent of the financial Armageddon that not making the playoffs has unleashed. Prime amongst which is the projected gate income, to which Ferres will have had to take a big red pen.

While that may be true, the picture will surely be much clearer now, and in any case I would have hoped they've sat in a board meeting and actually discussed this scenario already.

Maybe as a business the club is doing ok? Who knows. We've been through financial hell prior to the relegation to the Championship and naturally we all assume the worst.

However our average attendance for the season is over the magic 4000 this season which I remember Marc Green saying in one of the initial sign up meetings was required. Perhaps the actual number required is a little less than that? In negotiations of any kind no one ever reveals the true figure that is acceptable to them.

The hospitality suite always seems full and we have a lot of sponsors/associated companies now. The hospitality bit also seems to do a bit of non-Bulls related business too. I'm sure we make a good amount from the four replica jerseys released every year and all the other merch and then there is also Bulls TV, Lottery etc.

If you factor in that we have had 40 first teamers on the books this year and quite a lot of those are our ex super league squad who will be on a fair chunk and are probably leaving then maybe the shortfall from the central funding won't be that hard to make up?

None of us know but Marc Green doesn't seem like the sort of guy to me that would take gambles. He said he would run it as a business and I'm sure that involved doing a worst case projection of not making the 8's. I was at the game so didn't listen but I saw a post somewhere detailing Marc Green's spot on BCB today where he apparently said that next years squad is sorted.

Oh and we've been relegated to the Kingstone Press Championship Super 8's section of the forum now too.

I'd say humiliation complete but I'll save that for when we don't make the final by losing to Dewsbury at home in the play off bit of the competition.

Am I right to think we are already in the playoffs for this Mickey Mouse cup unless we lose every game, and Swinton win every game?

God knows how you sell the next home 4 games.

Yep, all points carry over so I think us and Fax only have to win 2 of 7 to be in the top 4 play off.

Then 1st plays 4th and 2nd plays 3rd and the winners go to the final. Or something like that.

chuff me there's play-offs. Why prolong the misery. Why not just give the mickey mouse cup to whoever finished top (or 5th as it were)

Sorry but if we make the final then who would really go? I'm not forking out yet more money for the club "celebrating" absolute failure. I'd rather watch our U19S in the play-offs. Least they have a bit of pride.

think us and fax only have to win one each to guarantee semi final spots.

Apparently not.

So it could all be sewn up for us in week one then? This is going to be a long month!

Sorry No interest in this coconut fight, we all turned up in numbers to see our team play week in and week out. In some games they stayed on the bus so i am staying at home, SF can sit by himself with the Tealady but i expect she has more taste than that.

...AND she can turn over a new leaf!.....unlike some.