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Quote: Bulliac "I'd agree that the odd partnership needs to settle a bit, so I'd expect say, Siejka and Gaskell to get some more time together as they are going to be crucial later on. With such a big squad it's going to be hard to keep everyone fit, to be honest.'"



I'd expand that and keep the spine of the team the same. Mullaney-Gaskell-Siejka-O'Brien. I can understand replacing players in other positions, but those 4 need plenty of game time playing together to get cohesion.

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Quote: Bets'y Bulls "Is it me or is there a lack of info around injuries? Ferguson ? Blythe ? Peterson ? Even Baille was described as a hamstring pull after Cas game, we all knew that but nothing further. Davies is on crutches, in-growing toe nail or cruciate? Fleming ? Any more I have missed?'"


I agree

Think T&A said Davies was torn ligament - which could be serious or not. Baille was pulled hamstring, didn't seem long term. And assume Ferguson is the ever-present back trouble, but that's just assumption

No idea on Fleming, Blythe or Peterson - or how long they might be out

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I don't think this is the time to rest players as we have only just started the season and we need a team that can play well to gather to chop and change now will only cause problems later on.

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Just seen the players comments on Bulls TV. They know they blew it and know why. That is really positive. If I was Jimmy I would be a lot more confident about things moving forward than before the leigh game.

The team can come out on Sunday and put some wrongs, right.

Zapperbull- Don't you think that some rotation is needed to keep players sharp, we have a big squad and we do not want to have players getting disillusioned and going off mentally in training.

If we are able to play our better players on a two week rotation and have a "MAIN SQUAD" built out of the form players for the really tough games?

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Quote: Bets'y Bulls "Is it me or is there a lack of info around injuries? Ferguson ? Blythe ? Peterson ? Even Baille was described as a hamstring pull after Cas game, we all knew that but nothing further. Davies is on crutches, in-growing toe nail or cruciate? Fleming ? Any more I have missed?'"


Absolutely right - good observation.... Email sent to club requesting new web page under "On the Pitch"

Can but hope!

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Whitehaven are currently without a coach after Steve Deakin quit a week before the start of the new season. They are currently being player coached by Brett Seymour. Other than that I know very little about this team.

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Quote: dddooommm "Whitehaven are currently without a coach after Steve Deakin quit a week before the start of the new season. They are currently being player coached by Brett Seymour. Other than that I know very little about this team.'"


Seem to be in turmoil at the moment - reportedly couldn't raise a team for one of their pre-season games and Barrow beat them by about 40 in another. You'll win very comfortably on Sunday - even 'Fax won up there last weekend icon_wink.gif - although you have got another 'inexperienced' Championship ref to contend with, just in case Mr Lowes needs any excuses! icon_wink.gif

Fantastic to see so many Bulls fans at ours last Sunday ( eusa_clap.gif eusa_clap.gif ) - you'll probably notice the difference in away support next weekend!

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Quote: miketaurus "="miketaurus"

Zapperbull- Don't you think that some rotation is needed to keep players sharp, we have a big squad and we do not want to have players getting disillusioned and going off mentally in training.

Milketaurus whilst i agree we do need rotation, at this early stage i believe at this early stage we need to get a team playing well together, then as the season progresses it is easier to slot players in to rest others.

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Quote: zapperbull "

I guess my view is that the gym etc is one thing. Performing in competition is quite another. I would be more generous in accommodating the "Show me why I should pick you?" That will clearly buy into the philosophy that every player has an opportunity.

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Some players aren't bothered about an opportunity - #Show me the money

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Quote: rugbyreddog "Some players aren't bothered about an opportunity - #Show me the money'"


Speaking to another fan. Your not on your own with that sentiment :-/

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Quote: Alan "Seem to be in turmoil at the moment - reportedly couldn't raise a team for one of their pre-season games and Barrow beat them by about 40 in another. You'll win very comfortably on Sunday - even 'Fax won up there last weekend
On the refs, I've no idea if its been mentioned in our 44 page bitch fest about the first game but isnt Mr Cobb from last weekend both based in Leigh and a Leigh fan? If so Im not sure he was the wisest choice for such an opening game.

I've no intention of reading all that thread to find out if thats been mentioned, a thread which can be summed up by;
Two good teams, both fired up by passionate fans, went at it, both sets of players and staff had people who should have behaved more professionally, and the more settled team at home got the win with some excellent rugby, but both teams showed why they'll be the two teams to beat this year and whoever drops into the middle 8 from SL will be given a right test by either team.

I am looking forward to the return game and an equally large Leigh following at Odsal later in the year for our two points icon_wink.gif Just hope the Whitehaven game has half the talking points, but tbf I'd settle for a quieter game and the 2 points first to get us off the mark.

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Quote: HamsterChops "I'd expand that and keep the spine of the team the same. Mullaney-Gaskell-Siejka-O'Brien. I can understand replacing players in other positions, but those 4 need plenty of game time playing together to get cohesion.'"


On reflection I have to agree with that, but if I were Lowes then my first job this week would have been a chat with that idiot Siejka, who the more I have thought about it, I think ultimately cost us the match. He isn't to blame for being a shoite goalkicker, I'm sure he did his best, but still, had he kicked his goals; and he can only do the job he is told to do; but that job does not include setting the worst example, and getting himself totally needlessly sent off the field of play, that was ludicrous and I would be sorely tempted to publicly drop him for his behaviour. I couldn't believe my eyes, if I'm honest. And there's a chance come Thursday the disciplinary may give the idiot a short break anyway.

I think the first thing Lowes needs to do is rapidly sort out the goalkicking, we have a big squad and unless Siejka can rapidly show an ability to become a kicker, then there must be someone who can do it at least passably. Hopefully he will get a lot of practice next weekend and before. But as things stand, he is a seven day camel ride off being a reliable kicker of pressure goals.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "On reflection I have to agree with that, but if I were Lowes then my first job this week would have been a chat with that idiot Siejka, who the more I have thought about it, I think ultimately cost us the match. He isn't to blame for being a shoite goalkicker, I'm sure he did his best, but still, had he kicked his goals; and he can only do the job he is told to do; but that job does not include setting the worst example, and getting himself totally needlessly sent off the field of play, that was ludicrous and I would be sorely tempted to publicly drop him for his behaviour. I couldn't believe my eyes, if I'm honest. And there's a chance come Thursday the disciplinary may give the idiot a short break anyway.

I think the first thing Lowes needs to do is rapidly sort out the goalkicking, we have a big squad and unless Siejka can rapidly show an ability to become a kicker, then there must be someone who can do it at least passably. Hopefully he will get a lot of practice next weekend and before. But as things stand, he is a seven day camel ride off being a reliable kicker of pressure goals.'"


If it wasn't for the complete lack of cover in the halves, I'd agree wholeheartedly. Siejka's idiocy on Sunday was a big factor IMO and he should at the very least have his 'arris well and truly kicked. But dropping him would be an issue for us in that it would mean Mullaney or Brook likely having to play in the halves, where there will be a big question on their ability there, and it's another game that the combination wouldn't get experience. It's a shame the person having the brainf*rts on Sunday wasn't one in a more interchangeable position than our only real scrum half.

As far as goal kicking goes, Jake Mullaney started last season as Salford's main goalkicker, so it's bemusing to everyone except Lowes why Siejka seems to have the responsibility.

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Quote: HamsterChops "If it wasn't for the complete lack of cover in the halves, I'd agree wholeheartedly. Siejka's idiocy on Sunday was a big factor IMO and he should at the very least have his 'arris well and truly kicked. But dropping him would be an issue for us in that it would mean Mullaney or Brook likely having to play in the halves, where there will be a big question on their ability there, and it's another game that the combination wouldn't get experience. It's a shame the person having the brainf*rts on Sunday wasn't one in a more interchangeable position than our only real scrum half.

As far as goal kicking goes, Jake Mullaney started last season as Salford's main goalkicker, so it's bemusing to everyone except Lowes why Siejka seems to have the responsibility.'"


I remember Mullaney kicking one from the touchline to beat Hull away last year, need to give someone else a go or see if Shaw can fit in somewhere...must be room available in the threequarters if Walker can get a start at .

On the HB options, I really wish we'd have picked up Sammut, he's still nowhere near the first choice at Wakey and Sammut, Gaskell and Seijka would give us more cover and options. Might even be able to get Sammut on loan if he continues getting no game time at Wakey but I've lost track of our quota position tbh and it might not be an option?

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