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| Quote: Nothus "Doesn't happen often, but I'm embarrassed to be RL fan right now.
Saints were poor, awful in fact. They have been without playmakers for weeks and had their only creative player taken out early, so it's not their fault. But what I find disppointing is that they actually made it to the GF in such a sorry state, and then actually lifted the trophy with some of the most inept and one dimensional attacking play you're ever likely to see.
Castleford were a huge let down when it mattered. Leeds were also a complete disaster in the final rounds of the season. Catalan tried their best but ultimately fell short.
Coupled with the awful attendances and one sided scorelines, the entire end to this season has been a total letdown for me, the only highlight being the semi final between Wigan and Wire.
Such a deflating end to the current league system, let's hope 2015 and the changes it brings actually improve our game, but I'm not holding my breath.'"
I agree with all of that. Saints are the worst team to have ever won a GF in my opinion. Not their fault, as they were shorn of all their creative players.
But, still, the fact they were able to cruise through to a GF and actually win it speaks volumes about the paucity of the opposition. |
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| Quote: dddooommm "instagram.com/p/tmv_xuncIV/
"Knock people out. I can't give you any more free rein than that. Create f*cking mayhem"
Oh Shaun... ![]()
Wane should face a disrepute charge for this. Mayhem? Collectively make it impossible for the referee to control the game?
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Wigan statement
Wigan Warrior’s Ben Flower has issued a full apology for assaulting Lance Hohaia in the Super League Grand Final.
Flower was shown a straight red card for two brutal punches to the face of the St Helens playmaker early on in their 14-6 defeat to the Saints, which left Hohaia unconscious.
Flower’s own head coach, Shaun Wane, has refused to defend him, stating his player “made a huge error” that fully deserved dismissal.
And Flower said
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| Quote: dddooommm "instagram.com/p/tmv_xuncIV/
"Knock people out. I can't give you any more free rein than that. Create f*cking mayhem"
Oh Shaun... ![]()
"That's what's gonna get us a f*cking win next week" 
What it actually got them was a red card in the second minute and ultimately a defeat against opposition they were expected to beat.
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Who would seriously want to perform for that gobshíte? He comes across as a right nasty piece of work.
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| Quote: BullCharge ""That's what's gonna get us a f*cking win next week" ![]()
This footage is from Wigans WCC trip earlier this year not the grand final .
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| Quote: Leeds Thirteen "This footage is from Wigans WCC trip earlier this year not the grand final .'"
Well ok, but it's not a good mentality to coach into a team, regardless of the match they're playing in. |
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On a lighter note,Louie Mcarthy Scarsbrook should be invited to everyone's party,yes he swore on camera but what the hell given the circumstances.After the game he was in the background on every interview having a jolly good time,great to see somebody enjoying winning like that
Also nice to see Wigan realise they are not the best,they must of been a few chips missing from a few shoulders at the end of the match
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Upto being sent off he was having a good game.
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Wonder of Flower got any votes for MOfM? He was certainly player with biggest impact on game
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| Quote: rugbyreddog "Upto being sent off he was having a good game.'"
Who for Saints? He dropped the ball with the line at his mercy immediately before getting himself sent off. |
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A former Bradford player told me of one coach who would occasionally tell the players stuff like "I dont care if half of you get sent off today".
None of the players took that literally.
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| Funny, no one's mentioned whether the ref had a good game or not..  |
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| Quote: Bulliac "Funny, no one's mentioned whether the ref had a good game or not.. ![]()
He got an easy decision in early to help settle his nerves 
I am sure Mr Flowers will be honoured to know he featured at the top of an article called top 5 pommie league thugs down under
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There's almost no punishment the RFL could throw at Flower that could be considered too harsh, unless you are a typical small town Wigan inbred. But I remember Barry (before he was Barrie) McDermott hitting Paul Sironen with a shot that was potentially more damaging than Flower's, & he turned from a thug into the best prop of his generation. It will be interesting to see how his career pans out.
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