FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Bradford Bulls > Kopczak, Elima.....
28 posts in 3 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach13012No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2021Apr 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
15768_1384187582.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_15768.jpg



What you Bulls fans must get used to , is you are NOT a Big Team in the SL anymore , that's history , next season you are more than likely to be playing in the Championship , wake up , this is how life is .

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman7594
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2021May 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
8_1434361123.jpg
When my club didn't exist it was still bigger than yours:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_8.jpg



Good point, well worth making.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach15035
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200619 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Aug 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
21910.gif
[u:b26ka63j][size=150:b26ka63j][color=black:b26ka63j][b:b26ka63j]I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying. [/b:b26ka63j][/color:b26ka63j][/size:b26ka63j][/u:b26ka63j] [size=117:b26ka63j]Michael Jordan[/size:b26ka63j]:21910.gif



Peacock was telling people he planned to join Leeds at the start of the 04 season well before Harris joined. He then used the Harris signing as more than convenient smoke screen to move on it took all the heat off him.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1323No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200718 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Mar 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



For every Ferres and Atkins, there's a Parker and a Moore.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach442No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200817 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2017Jan 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
38022.jpg
:38022.jpg



It's funny because I was talking to my Dad about this other day about the amount of players who have left us and that are doing well at other clubs but has we now know most of these players were let go because of the lack of money at the club or mismanagement I remember been so annoyed when we let Ferres go after he had such a good first season with us and then to sign someone like Solomona who was average at best.

RankPostsTeam
International Star2524
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 201114 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2023Feb 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
Black Backgrounds/Earl%20Sinclair.gif
Veni, Vidi, Spurius brutus detruncavi I came, I saw, I tore the thick b4st4rds limb from limb Bradford Bulls - the polished turds of SL since 2012:Black Backgrounds/Earl%20Sinclair.gif



Quote: woolly07 "These debates never really get anywhere. Look at what we have right now. Donno, Olbison and Addey. Some supporters think they are good but still talk about bringing in two ne back rowers. If we keep these three and they do not get any better the coach gets condemned. If we sign new players and let them go and they become top internationals the coach gets condemned. There is a very fine line between keeping and letting go. You win sometimes and lose sometimes. Leeds fans must have this problem with all of the players they have let go because they bring so many through. You just have to accept that some don't fully develop with us but a new club does bring it out of them and they probably wouldn't have done the same with us. Would Deacs have been the same player with another SL club (a bottom club) who didn't have the stars we had at that time?'"


Bingo, no one knows the future, an average player in one team may flourish in a different environment with better coaching.

"What you Bulls fans must get used to , is you are NOT a Big Team in the SL anymore , that's history , next season you are more than likely to be playing in the Championship , wake up , this is how life is"

^Bongo^

RankPostsTeam
Moderator10969
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2023Jun 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
1271.jpg
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. Mark Twain Build Bridges NOT Walls:1271.jpg

Moderator


Quote: woolly07 "These debates never really get anywhere. Look at what we have right now. Donno, Olbison and Addey. Some supporters think they are good but still talk about bringing in two ne back rowers. If we keep these three and they do not get any better the coach gets condemned. If we sign new players and let them go and they become top internationals the coach gets condemned. There is a very fine line between keeping and letting go. You win sometimes and lose sometimes. Leeds fans must have this problem with all of the players they have let go because they bring so many through. You just have to accept that some don't fully develop with us but a new club does bring it out of them and they probably wouldn't have done the same with us. Would Deacs have been the same player with another SL club (a bottom club) who didn't have the stars we had at that time?'"


Actually, I think the debate is very interesting, though I'd accept there is no real benefit to be gained. Does this matter on a msg board?

The rest of your post I totally agree with. All ins and outs are made in the situation as it exists at the time and if a youngster [Say, Ryan Atkins] is fourth or fifth in line for a spot at the time [which he was] but goes on to become an international, it's a bit rich to blame the coach for letting him go, remembering that money is finite and there is a cap to be adhered to and sometimes the player just doesn't want to hang around waiting for his chance.

The decisions for Ferres and Cook were reasonable at the time imo, even though hindsight shows it didn't work, Solomona was a very different type of player, a much more skilful ball player but also inconsistent, and in truth, a luxury we didn't need and couldn't afford, particularly given the players around him.

Deacs was fortunate to play pretty much his entire career behind a dominant pack, to be honest the kind of pack [iany[/i half would love to have making space for him to play in and he definitely wouldn't have been as good at a lower club, but then, of course, neither would any other half.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5281
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Brett Ferres hasn't only developed as a player and definitely a leader, he has put on some real size which makes him extremely difficult to handle. Ferries and Wardle are arguably the best right sided backrow/centre combo in the competition and Steve Mac let them both go iirc.

We maybe couldn't have kept all of these players together with the lads we currently have but if we could have probably have kept a good portion of them then we would have a side competing at the other end of the ladder.

RankPostsTeam
Moderator10969
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2023Jun 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
1271.jpg
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. Mark Twain Build Bridges NOT Walls:1271.jpg

Moderator


There's little doubt we'd welcome them back with open arms right now..

Actually, I don't think we "let Wardle go", it was more a matter of being outbid when his contract came up for renewal.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5281
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



They shouldn't let it get to that point IMO.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach15035
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200619 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Aug 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
21910.gif
[u:b26ka63j][size=150:b26ka63j][color=black:b26ka63j][b:b26ka63j]I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying. [/b:b26ka63j][/color:b26ka63j][/size:b26ka63j][/u:b26ka63j] [size=117:b26ka63j]Michael Jordan[/size:b26ka63j]:21910.gif



Quote: Bulliac "There's little doubt we'd welcome them back with open arms right now..

Actually, I don't think we "let Wardle go", it was more a matter of being outbid when his contract came up for renewal.'"

Outbid that old chestnut again. The offer to him was abysmal Giants offered him a fair amount not tried to take him on the cheap.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman28357
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2024Oct 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
973_1515165968.gif
Last edited by Ferocious Aardvark on stardate Jun 26, 3013 11:27 am, edited 48,562,867,458,300,023 times in total:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_973.gif



Quote: redeverready "Outbid that old chestnut again. The offer to him was abysmal Giants offered him a fair amount not tried to take him on the cheap.'"

This, also it would have been cheaper to have made him a decent offer and kept him given the increasing importance of home-grown rules.

Of all the departures, I think letting Ferres go was the biggest mistake.

RankPostsTeam
Moderator10969
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2023Jun 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
1271.jpg
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. Mark Twain Build Bridges NOT Walls:1271.jpg

Moderator


Quote: redeverready "Outbid that old chestnut again. The offer to him was abysmal Giants offered him a fair amount not tried to take him on the cheap.'"

I'll defer to you as you seem to have intimate knowledge of their contracts.

28 posts in 3 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin
28 posts in 3 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


4.45263671875:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
16m
Film game
Boss Hog
5626
30m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2590
33m
Transfer Talk V5
RAPIDO
502
33m
Fixtures 2025
Faithful One
64
50m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
bonaire
4013
53m
Salford
karetaker
11
Recent
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
Jack Burton
11
Recent
Dual Reg
Big lads mat
7
Recent
Leeds away first up
Big lads mat
40
Recent
How many games will we win
bellycouldta
3
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
Stu M
14
1m
Fixtures 2025
Faithful One
64
1m
Noah Booth out on loan
Butcher
20
1m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40731
1m
Catalan Away
jonh
5
1m
Dual Reg
Big lads mat
7
3m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
Jack Burton
11
3m
Salford placed in special measures
FIL
94
3m
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2515
3m
New Kit
Saddened!
67
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
bellycouldta
3
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
jonh
5
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
karetaker
11
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
Big lads mat
40
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Butcher
20
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
330
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
517
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1261
England's Women Demolish The W..
1088
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1325
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1118
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1377
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1918
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2136
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2378
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1950
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2187
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2651
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2081
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2156
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M +11,914 80,15514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
 Thu 6th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Hull FC
v
Leigh
 Fri 7th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Castleford
v
Salford
20:00
St.Helens
v
Hull KR
 Sat 8th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
17:30
Catalans
v
Leeds
 Sun 9th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
17:30
Warrington
v
Wakefield
17:30
Wigan
v
Huddersfield
 Thu 20th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R4
20:00
Salford
v
Huddersfield
 Fri 21st Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R4
20:00
St.Helens
v
Warrington
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
16m
Film game
Boss Hog
5626
30m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2590
33m
Transfer Talk V5
RAPIDO
502
33m
Fixtures 2025
Faithful One
64
50m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
bonaire
4013
53m
Salford
karetaker
11
Recent
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
Jack Burton
11
Recent
Dual Reg
Big lads mat
7
Recent
Leeds away first up
Big lads mat
40
Recent
How many games will we win
bellycouldta
3
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
Stu M
14
1m
Fixtures 2025
Faithful One
64
1m
Noah Booth out on loan
Butcher
20
1m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40731
1m
Catalan Away
jonh
5
1m
Dual Reg
Big lads mat
7
3m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
Jack Burton
11
3m
Salford placed in special measures
FIL
94
3m
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2515
3m
New Kit
Saddened!
67
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
bellycouldta
3
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
jonh
5
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
karetaker
11
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
Big lads mat
40
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Butcher
20
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
330
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
517
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1261
England's Women Demolish The W..
1088
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1325
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1118
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1377
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1918
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2136
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2378
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1950
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2187
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2651
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2081
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2156


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!