1. Who are you punishing? The blokes that ran the club into the ground are gone and got away scot free. Why punish the bloke who comes in and picks up the pieces? He had nothing to do with the mess before. Why punish the players and supporters? Is it their fault?

2. We don't owe the RFL any money. Whatever the deal was over the lease on the ground it has resulted in the current owners not owning the lease and the RFL getting an asset for which they were paid in full.
The whole shambles didn't put us off going into administration and the RFL have got an asset. I'd say they did better out of it than the Bulls have.

My Problem with all this is (apologies if anyone else has brought this up) is that , yes omar and gerry agreed to the two reductions in sky money to save the club.I don't think they were aware at the time that the second reduction would coincide with being in the same season as all the proposed changes.This is, I feel, the unfair element of all this.

Does anyone know who actually wrote the article in the League Express? Was it Sadler?

I think thats spot on. They grundgingly agreed to the loss of money (the other option being oblivion) whilst we were under the licencing arrangements, whereby as long as we could prove we were stabilising/developing the club it didnt matter too much where we finished in the league, we'd have aa good a chance as anyone else to gain a continuing licence, so if we were in the bottom two due to cutting our squad due to less money then that was an issue we could deal with over the short term and explain to the licencing commitee.

Now however, the goalposts have moved, and the second year of our punishment coincides with two spaces opening up on the trapdoor out of super league, but we're having to play to different rules than everyone else. Nice.

If they want to hold back one more season of half the sky money, well fine that was the deal, but why not defer that punishment to the 2015 or 2016 season which would be much less critical in terms of our future? Or at the very least dont give everyone else a foot up with our punishment money at the same time, put it into grass roots development or pay off some of the debts of the old company with it.

Ralph Rimmer????

Some people really are this thick aren't they?



What exactly has that got to do with this thread? I can't see anyone complaining about the points deduction on here can you?

In fact this actually encourages it tbh.



We didn't. They bought the ground and currently charge the bulls rent it.



The old club was this one has been hampered from day 1 by the other clubs



To compare taking the assets of one club and rebranding them as your own is not the same as buying and trying to turn round a failing sports club.



What a bizarre and unrelated thing to say.

He quit the stadium and Giants roles in Oct 2010 to take the RFL role.

Did he sell his shares in Hudders too?

Clubs run poorly should be punished, however i see your point about the wrong administration being punished. The problem is the same as in football. In any other walk of life, running a company into the ground and causing other loss of earnings etc would result in prossecution against those running the business. I don't see why this shouldn't happen in sport too.

I accept i just commented on this and didn't explain myself very well. What i was trying to get accross is that if i were you guys i would just be happy to have a team to watch after it could have all gone wrong.

Hands up for putting it accross in a moronic way!

Scadge when Hull swallowed up Gateshead Thunder, I would guess at that time the future was looking bleak for your team,would you of been happy for the RFL to take away half your Sky money and divide it between all the other clubs

Scadge please just give me a yes or no answer,not trying to get into an arguement

Bieng selfish; If it meant my team staying in existence i would have to take whatever way out was possible.

Everyone's overjoyed to have a club but we're living on the edge as proved by the wages debacle last week. Surely it's counter productive and unfair on the club employees and players to have to go through this uncertainty after last year? If we'd been given the fair share of money I suspect we'd not be in this position.

When was the decision made that we'd be on half sky money next year?

It can't have been when Omar took over because they only decided we were in next year half way through this season.

The next club that goes belly up I hope they get this same treatment because we weren't the first and we won't be the last club to get in trouble.

OK signed up for this for 2 years. The sharing of our money amongst the other clubs was the thing decided later IIRC.

OK has said himself that he's learnt from this episode to look after No1 if it happens to another club.