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| I can't see Whitehead playing for Dewsbury, and I would suspect FC will know this. FC's comments are insinuating to Whitehead and his agent that the Bulls are prepared to keep him until an agreement is met.
Whitehead will not play for Dewsbury, in fear of collecting a serious injury, which would scupper any chance of a transfer.
FC just wants all to know what the Bulls are prepared to do if this drags on
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| I think that if he came back in the right circumstances it shows that the club is big enough to accept that one mistake doesn't make a player persona non grata for ever.
As no-one I've ever met, ever has been known to go through life without making a mistake [indeed, it's from those mistakes that we often learn most], I'd guess the other players would be happy to know they were in a caring environment and not one run by some dictatorial fundamentalist, ready to chop off their fingers for the slightest error.
'course, I could be wrong.
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| If he returns, FC would have to make sure he just doesn't waltz back into the team at the expense of one of our other 2nd rowers.
He would have to prove his worth to his team mates and the fans again before we can all begin to get behind him.
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| Quote: Bulliac "I'd guess the other players would be happy to know they were in a caring environment and not one run by some dictatorial fundamentalist, ready to chop off their fingers for the slightest error.
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Interesting choice of terminology there.
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| Quote: mystic eddie "Bothered?
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| Quote: daveyz999 "
IMO, Elliot's management will be advising him not to risk injury.'"
I doubt Elliot's management could organise an orgy in a brothel TBH.
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| If Elliott's 'management' are really having difficulty finding another club I'd guess they might actually be suggesting he patches up his differences with the Bulls and puts himself in the 'shop window'. As I suggested earlier, if he were to come back in a motivated frame of mind, it would be to everyone's advantage, even if it were to be only temporarily.
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| Quote: daveyz999 "Disagree with this - Elliot has a contract to play for the Bulls, no other club. He can also state he is contracted to play in Super League.
If the club forces him to play championship rugby, this could be a sign of being forced out by the current management, and he could claim constructive dismissal. (less convinced with this as he's already stated he wants out)'"
Wrong and wrong. You don't seem to understand the basic point, that a player is on a Fixed Term contract, and the club agrees to pay him £X for Y years. That's it. Dismissal doesn't come into it. As long as neither party breaches the contract, then they have to pay and he has to play. I haven't seen it, but you are surely not suggesting any player has a contract GUARANTEEING first team rugby??
Are you seriously telling us you think that all the players in SL clubs' first team squads who don't get a regular game could theoretically refuse to play at all, or claim this amounted to some sort of a dismissal? Well, that must make picking the team tricky especially at places like Wigan and Warrington.
"Sorry Shane, I know you want to pick Tomkins again but you need to give A.N.Stiff some regular game time so he doesn't take us for dismissal". Is that really how you think it works?
Quote: daveyz999 "IMO, Elliot's management will be advising him not to risk injury.'"
IMO his agent ("management"? ) has feck all to do with the contractual relationship between player and club. They might advise him to have porridge for breakfast, it would be equally relevant.
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Wrong and wrong. You don't seem to understand the basic point, that a player is on a Fixed Term contract, and the club agrees to pay him £X for Y years. That's it. Dismissal doesn't come into it. As long as neither party breaches the contract, then they have to pay and he has to play. I haven't seen it, but you are surely not suggesting any player has a contract GUARANTEEING first team rugby??
Are you seriously telling us you think that all the players in SL clubs' first team squads who don't get a regular game could theoretically refuse to play at all, or claim this amounted to some sort of a dismissal? Well, that must make picking the team tricky especially at places like Wigan and Warrington.'"
Widening the argument there I think FA. My argument is the player is contracted to the club, therefore is contracted to play for the club. I never mentioned a any dispute relating to not getting picked, only being farmed out against their will to a dual registration club in a lesser competition. IMO, this is a separate argument.
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| I agree with FA
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