Why would I think you were "stupid"? Stating a reasoned opinion should be the bread and butter of any forum.

I've watched the same games and don't think we've been quite as bad as you think, especially taking into consideration a shortage of fully fit players and players having to play busted. I agree that we will struggle to beat Saints if we can't field 17 pretty much fully fit men, but I smell a backs-to-the-wall performance coming

I didn't mean you FA I agree with your comment that Saints (as a club though) are in freefall. The comment you quoted was for Davey999 or whatever his username is.

I think compared to the Saints performances we have been terrible (good in our own right) but considering Saints had 2 VERY important players missing for a large chunk (Lomax and Roby) of the season and other injuries to their pack they have still been putting on outstanding performances and are blood quality youngsters (Percival for one) and we haven't been producing performances anywhere near what they have and the best player we can offer from the youth is Jobe Murphy. No offence but he's not very good :/

Well done Bulls Boy,this thread is only 1 behind Debasers now

Doh

What you posting in here for?

Oh whoops.

Don't know,e not again

lol, don't get offended, I actually wrote out my last post with a smile on my face.

You referred to Saints form as 'On Fire', even the most optimistic of Saints fans would struggle to agree with that post.

I watched them against Huddersfield and they were poor. Huddersfield took their foot off the gas and let Saints back into it. Even when the game was closer, Saints looked out of ideas going forward and made too many mistakes.

1 win in 8 is probably the worst form by any Saints team to ever play Super League, they are quite clearly not on fire. They may be playing better then previous and they may improve with the returning players, but they have been poor recently.

Again, try not to read the above as an aggressive response, i'm still smiling as I write. I'm open for a good discussion, and maybe shouldn't have used the word stupid, but it was easier to spell than ridiculous.

are we winning yet.....

Debasers losing 21-17 before this post,bloody hell I keep forgetting

Oh I'm not offended lol. I just felt that your response meant that I had to explain my point in full. It is without doubt the worst St Helens team in the Super League era. And yes they have been poor in parts but the fact that they can capitalize on these opportunities is a hell of a lot more than we can do.

Like I said over the past few weeks they have played some very good rugby against some very good teams (Warrington and Huddersfield especially in defence). We have a poor defence and will be exploited by the likes of Percival out wide and Manu up the middle. That's not even taking into consideration that damage Roby will do up the middle and a returning Lomax too.

Can an admin merge the thread so me and debaser can join in the spoils of war please, or just lock his either way it works for me

Advantage Broadybull

Will you all just clear off to the other thread please.

If anyone chucks some water over us we really are doomed

Realistically do any of us think the team will improve, now EW has thrown in the towel?

They may take this as the kick up the backside that they need, i am hoping for a great game tomorrow not the usual dead rubber our matches with saints can be.