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| I think we're voting on what they did at the Bulls though, rather than before or after.
On that basis there is no place for Orford or Edwards, brilliant as both were elsewhere, of the rest most played so little or have yet to establish themselves, like Luke Gale who is showing great promise, so for me it is between Robbie and Deacs. I always felt Robbie was better at playing a bit wider than no.7, but he did play such a lot at scrum half, and did so very successfully, so he'd get my vote as first choice.
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| Very easy for me. Deacs and R H-P, deacs being my favourite bulls player of all and why my favourite number is 7.
The fact that Robbie was a utility man didnt work in his favour but i wasn't gunna go for orford and pity that gale has only been here this year. Luke would have fitted right into the side in the late 90's and early 00'
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| Quote: Bulliac "I think we're voting on what they did at the Bulls though, rather than before or after.
On that basis there is no place for Orford or Edwards, brilliant as both were elsewhere, of the rest most played so little or have yet to establish themselves, like Luke Gale who is showing great promise, so for me it is between Robbie and Deacs. I always felt Robbie was better at playing a bit wider than no.7, but he did play such a lot at scrum half, and did so very successfully, so he'd get my vote as first choice.'"
Completely agree with you regarding Edwards (the best British scrum half I've ever seen), Orford and Gale. Only difference is that I put Deacs ahead of Robbie-- brilliant organiser/kicker compared to brilliant improviser. I think Gale has the potential to be a second Deacon.
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| if orford behaved more honourably it would be a tougher poll. as it is, Paul and Deacon the top 2 by a country mile.
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| Quote: Bulliac "I think we're voting on what they did at the Bulls though, rather than before or after.
On that basis there is no place for Orford or Edwards, brilliant as both were elsewhere, of the rest most played so little or have yet to establish themselves, like Luke Gale who is showing great promise, so for me it is between Robbie and Deacs. I always felt Robbie was better at playing a bit wider than no.7, but he did play such a lot at scrum half, and did so very successfully, so he'd get my vote as first choice.'"
My only memories of Edwards time at Bradford are of him having hissy fits when no-one would pass to him despite having a clear run in to the line. Orford might only have played half a season but he was outstanding throughout that time.
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| Tough one this but i went for deacon and r paul I truely hope gale will be in the same league hes got the skill
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| This is tough (for the first place).
I think Robbie would edge my vote on a stand alone basis (although I agree he's probably more suited to six), but the fact that Henry is already in situ in our team means I would prefer Deacon. I'm not voting for subs.
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| Quote: tigertot "My only memories of Edwards time at Bradford are of him having hissy fits when no-one would pass to him despite having a clear run in to the line. Orford might only have played half a season but he was outstanding throughout that time.'"
I thought it was a fair call from Edwards to be fair. 'Hissy fit' or not there was clearly something in the background at the time, which was a great shame as I feel he had much to add, not least his uncanny ability to choose the [iexact[/i time to pop up on someone's shoulder, which was wasted when he didn't get the ball.
To be honest, I wouldn't have regarded Orford's few months at the club as 'outstanding'. He was obviously a classy player from the off and as he meshed with his halfback partner[s] he was becoming more and more effective as time went by, but the odd bit of brilliance here and there, like a single swallow not making a summer, wouldn't give him my vote as overall best. If he'd stayed and we'd seen a bit more, consistently, who knows..
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| What went on with Edwards? I regularly see it alluded to on here, but it was pre-internet (for me) and I'd left Bradford by then, so gossip was thin on the ground.
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| Quote: Bulliac "To be honest, I wouldn't have regarded Orford's few months at the club as 'outstanding'. He was obviously a classy player from the off and as he meshed with his halfback partner[s] he was becoming more and more effective as time went by, but the odd bit of brilliance here and there, like a single swallow not making a summer, wouldn't give him my vote as overall best. If he'd stayed and we'd seen a bit more, consistently, who knows..'"
I always wondered that, if Ox hadnt been injured at MM and stayed for his contract, how would we have fared? In the seasons that followed.
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| Quote: barigeorgeson "OMGF OMG OMFG! ICarnt believe DEacs is'nt winnin this!
TIGERtit were is ur vote 4 DEACS???
It's bad enough typing this rubbish, but actually voting as well.....
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| Quote: Stul "What went on with Edwards? I regularly see it alluded to on here, but it was pre-internet (for me) and I'd left Bradford by then, so gossip was thin on the ground.'"
He suggested there was a policy of not passing the ball to him (for which he blamed Graeme Bradley, chiefly), obviously no-one, other than the individuals concerned can say if it was actually true or not, but there were just too many occasions when Shaun backed up and wasn't given the ball, which suggested he was right.
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| Quote: broadybull87 "I always wondered that, if Ox hadnt been injured at MM and stayed for his contract, how would we have fared? In the seasons that followed.'"
Pretty hard to say whether he would have stayed even without the injury, I guess. No-one really knows if he was unhappy [ibefore[/i the injury of if he was just tapped up when he returned to Australia. If he had stayed and played a full part, for my money we would have kicked on, let's not forget we were in the top four when he was injured in Edinburgh, and a fit and committed Orford could have made all the difference, not just for that year but the following two for which he'd signed. As it was we pretty much shafted by the whole episode, which with Orford and Mimmis playing silly beggars and telling lies (if we are to believe Peter Hood) about him coming back we couldn't even recruit for the following year.
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| Deacon - no need to explain why
Orford - I wanted to pick Robbie but unfortunately I don't see him as a 7. I picked Orford because his passing game was great, pulled the strings and took a crap team (us) to 4th in the league until he was injured. We beat Wigan in a great comeback simply down to him and also he was furious when we drew at Leeds because he wanted to beat them and we should have had the ball gone to him on the last tackle.
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| Quote: Bulls Boy 2011 "Deacon - no need to explain why
Everyone seems to bring up the game against Wigan, in which Orford did play exceptionally well, but apart from that game, he was nothing special. His passing was not 'great', i remember many plays when he either gave the wrong pass or was nearly intercepted.
I do think he was getting stronger with each game, but he was only just above average from what I saw.
I can't believe we're getting close to having a team without Robbie in. The Paul brothers was one of the best combinations we have ever seen at Odsal, great to watch!
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