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Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
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| Quote: Kosh "Rather depends on how much cash the new owners can afford to pump in. It's conceivable they could make up the shortfall - and more.'"
Correct, I'm sure the creditors will all be impressed when the new owners cough up millions a couple of months after screwing them with a peanuts offer
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: pie.warrior "still got to pay the RFL the going rate for Odsal, no doubt they will want the money upfront next year to make sure they get it.'"
Why would they need it upfront? , they can just deduct it from the SKY money, the bulls will be getting 3 pound fifty the way they are going next season
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| Quote: Starbug "Correct, I'm sure the creditors will all be impressed when the new owners cough up millions a couple of months after screwing them with a peanuts offer'"
Wouldn't look good, would it? Also wouldn't be the first time something like that has happened. Seems unlikely though.
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| Quote: Kosh "Wouldn't look good, would it? Also wouldn't be the first time something like that has happened. Seems unlikely though.'"
How, pray, will they have "screwed" the creditors?
This was supposedly the best offer on the table. Would that unpleasant bitter Leyther you quoted have preferred that there had been no bid? As usual, he is talking out of his back passage.
If the creditors have been screwed, it is most certainly NOT by the buyer.
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: Adeybull "How, pray, will they have "screwed" the creditors?
This was supposedly the best offer on the table. Would that unpleasant bitter Leyther you quoted have preferred that there had been no bid? As usual, he is talking out of his back passage.
If the creditors have been screwed, it is most certainly NOT by the buyer.'"
Not by the buyers no , but definatley by the Bradford Bulls name and the sport, I'm not bitter and am trying to keep emotion out of my posts , but lets not pretend this has all been a good thing, it has been an absolute farce and a complete mess for the Bulls, the sport , for SL and for the supposed security of the licencing system put in place by the RFL
It does effectively show who is in charge of the sport, and it isnt the RFL, the SL club chairmen have the power now, so essentially SL is now an absolute closed shop , I hope they dont cock it up, because there wont be much left underneath it if they do
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| Quote: Starbug "I'm not bitter '"
What drives your obsession then, if not bitterness?
Quote: Starbug "t lets not pretend this has all been a good thing, '"
You come up with some nutty stuff, but really - the situation gas been about as dire as it could be, for fans, players, staff and creditors. How TF do you work out that anyone, anyone at all, said or thought that this nightmare has "been a good thing"?
Quote: Starbug "It does effectively show who is in charge of the sport, and it isnt the RFL, the SL club chairmen have the power now, so essentially SL is now an absolute closed shop , I hope they dont cock it up, because there wont be much left underneath it if they do'"
No idea where you get that from either. A business was failing and in danger of going under completely, in a double-dip recession somehow somebody was still found to buy the business, and that's pretty much it. Of course, the clubs, RFL or SLE can't win; for every one like you arguing that it's a closed shop, that they just scratch each other's backs, there's another who says the opposite, that it's only because it's Bradford, that they wouldn't do the same for this club, or that club, or the other club. So which is it?
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| ' Obsession ' ? ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](images/smilies//icon_lol.gif) , sorry I didnt realise only Bulls fans were allowed on here
Just passing comment on other poster speculation about who you might keep, replied to Kosh about that subject, as I said, without ' Emotion ' , but it seems you cannot read posts without emotion, if you dont like them, dont read them , stick me on ignore, save your blood pressure
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| Everything really hinges now on whether the club stays in SL. So the uncertainty for the coaching staff, players and fans continues for a few more weeks.
IF we do stay in SL the really big decision will be on season ticket pricing. How many tickets will we shift in the off season and at what price? Hopefully the goodwill generated in the last few months will translate into decent season ticket revenue. That will be critical.
I expect we'll shed a large number of players and staff at the end of this season. Cut costs to the bare bone. Then, if season ticket sales go better than expected, we'll try to pick up a few better players before next season starts. It'll all be a bit last minute but that cant be helped.
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: Cibaman "Everything really hinges now on whether the club stays in SL. So the uncertainty for the coaching staff, players and fans continues for a few more weeks.
IF we do stay in SL the really big decision will be on season ticket pricing. How many tickets will we shift in the off season and at what price? Hopefully the goodwill generated in the last few months will translate into decent season ticket revenue. That will be critical.
I expect we'll shed a large number of players and staff at the end of this season. Cut costs to the bare bone. Then, if season ticket sales go better than expected, we'll try to pick up a few better players before next season starts. It'll all be a bit last minute but that cant be helped.'"
There is no uncertainty, you have been living of next years SKY money, they wouldnt have ' advanced ' that unless you were entitled to it, the 90 K Championship money wouldnt have covered more than a month, enjoy your SL status, but support your club or it could be at risk in 23 months time
If you can draw 9/10,000 attendances without giving free/cheapo tickets, then the decision to keep you in SL will have been vindicated, if it drops to 6/7,000 then it hasnt, and other clubs will be in a position to nominate you to go
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| Oh jeez.
From the threat of liquidation to a new Wembley of the North in one paragraph. Can't we just have a quiet couple of years?
Welcome aboard, Mr Khan and thank you.
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1271.jpg Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.
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| Quote: Liane "I would think it would be standard TUPE rules, but looking at Rangers siutation just makes it confusing with them having the belief that players are in the wrong. They have threatened court action although I can't see how they would win the case with TUPE rules as I understand them. Not sure whether The RFL can influence it, they may turn round to the other clubs and say they won't register or allow clubs to sign players who are under contract for Bulls next year, highly unlikely though and I think it is safe to say we will lose a number of players this off season.'"
People keep quoting the Rangers situation but Scottish law isn't the same as English/Welsh law, so maybe, even if the situation is identical, the law surrounding it may not be.
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| Quote: Bulliac "People keep quoting the Rangers situation but Scottish law isn't the same as English/Welsh law, so maybe, even if the situation is identical, the law surrounding it may not be.'"
Wasn't it also the case that Rangers have moved into another competition and players are signing for clubs under different FA's rather than the SPL, Bradfut players will be trying to move to another club under the same "Governing Body" if they stay in SL. If the Bulls move to the Championship the SL contracts (for those that are still in contract) are void.
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1271.jpg Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.
Mark Twain
Build Bridges NOT Walls:1271.jpg |
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| Quote: Chang "Wasn't it also the case that Rangers have moved into another competition and players are signing for clubs under different FA's rather than the SPL, Bradfut players will be trying to move to another club under the same "Governing Body" if they stay in SL. If the Bulls move to the Championship the SL contracts (for those that are still in contract) are void.'"
I would have thought, though don't actually know, that all the divisions in Scotland would be affiliated to the Scottish FA?
Got to say, I don't know the difference in the relationship between the RFL/SLE and Scottish Premier and the SFA - you can throw in the Premiership and the FA in England too. I think the biggest difference between the two sports though is that there is a salary cap difference between SL and the Championship, whereas, I believe that Rangers can continue to pay the same wages in any division, assuming they can afford it of course, so can keep any and all their star players they have the cash to pay.
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| Quote: Liane "I would think it would be standard TUPE rules, but looking at Rangers siutation just makes it confusing with them having the belief that players are in the wrong. They have threatened court action although I can't see how they would win the case with TUPE rules as I understand them.'"
The only thing that Mr Green (rangers new owner) was complaining about was that the players decided to not transfer their contracts 2 weeks after the newco had agreed to transfer the contracts under TUPE rules.
He was stating that if players wanted to become free agents they should have made that clear within 48hrs.
The time frame seems to be what the solicitors are arguing about. I don't know who has the right of it.
The players who have left have scattered to several English & European clubs.
FIFA/UEFA & the SFA are discussing what to do about registrations for some of them (whose clubs have not paid anything)
Some clubs (Everton for example) have paid a nominal transfer fee just to keep themselves out of this mess.
I don't know how much of this will apply to Bulls players & the RFL.
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