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| Quote: tigertot "As soon as I saw Child was reffing I knew there would be the usual pathetic onslaught of criticism, so I watched his performance very carefully. I did miss bits of the second half in a constant battle for the remote control to watch the Olympics, so apologies if every supposed bad decision was during that time. From the game I saw there was only one decision that wasn't 50/50 that he missed. He didn't penalise Lulia for his vicious attack to to Taylor's head in the process of him scoring his try. If Taylor had gone down there rather than scoring then Lulia would have been off. Credit to Taylor for making nothing of it. Apart from that I didn't see anything, that in the modern game when literally hundreds of passes are line balls, couldn't have gone either way, consequently alienating half the crowd (& the hundreds of thousands of KR fans stuck on the motorways). As it was he let plenty go but pulled the obvious ones or those when he obviously got a call from his assistants. The current trend to attack refs after virtually every performance is the worst part of games, with posters trying to outdo each other with ludicrous hyperbole. WTF would want to take up the occupation when you are subject moronic abuse every week, on the pitch & on here? I would love it, love it, if any of the ignorant numpties screaming for justice on here were given just 10 minutes to ref a pro game, I would give a fortune to watch it.'"
My main gripe was his lack of control of the defence line and some very lenient referring of the ruck. With respect viewing via the tv, more often than not the camera is focused on the PTB not whether the defending team are retreating the full ten metres.
Child I presume is paid to be a SL quality referre? If he isn't full time then that might well explain his shortcomings. If I came to re-wire your premises and afterwards made a right mess of it, would you accept me turning around and saying "well there was a lot of wires to get right, you have have a go if you think you can do a better job?".
I would hope Child is more than capable of handling the criticism of his performances otherwise his definitely in the wrong profession. For what it is worth, I actually think he has potential to be a good ref but has been fast tracked too soon.
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| Quote: tigertot "As soon as I saw Child was reffing I knew there would be the usual pathetic onslaught of criticism, so I watched his performance very carefully. I did miss bits of the second half in a constant battle for the remote control to watch the Olympics, so apologies if every supposed bad decision was during that time. From the game I saw there was only one decision that wasn't 50/50 that he missed. He didn't penalise Lulia for his vicious attack to to Taylor's head in the process of him scoring his try. If Taylor had gone down there rather than scoring then Lulia would have been off. Credit to Taylor for making nothing of it. Apart from that I didn't see anything, that in the modern game when literally hundreds of passes are line balls, couldn't have gone either way, consequently alienating half the crowd (& the hundreds of thousands of KR fans stuck on the motorways). As it was he let plenty go but pulled the obvious ones or those when he obviously got a call from his assistants. The current trend to attack refs after virtually every performance is the worst part of games, with posters trying to outdo each other with ludicrous hyperbole. WTF would want to take up the occupation when you are subject moronic abuse every week, on the pitch & on here? I would love it, love it, if any of the ignorant numpties screaming for justice on here were given just 10 minutes to ref a pro game, I would give a fortune to watch it.'"
Well said. Interestingly, the only coach I've ever talked to who wouldn't criticise a referee either in public or privately was Ross Strudwick, who happened to be a qualified ref himself. He reckoned the job was difficult enough without having to put up with criticism from people who'd never done it and this was in the part-time era when the game was far slower than it is now.
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| I thought he missed a few things at the ptb. But no complaints about the penalties he gave against us. Our tackling in the first half was very careless.
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| The word is consistancy thats all we ask for as fans of the game. But this guy can not even keep both teams the 10 meters back at the play of the ball,and keeping the markers square. Also Mr Hicks,how in the world was that first kr try not obstruction is beyond me.
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| The 'obstruction' was a fair try for me. I thought so at the game and I still think so after seeing the replay. Jeffries clearly picks the the wrong runner and moves towards him.
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| All of you guys moaning about him, yet nobody has pinpointed a specific mistake he made. You can't moan about offside or holding down at the ptb because that's the same for both sides, you just can't see Bradford doing it because you're biased.
The only decision I can think of that I think he made a mistake on was the second short kick-off that Rovers did. Child ended up giving KR a scrum feed for a Bulls knock on, but the replays showed every touch going back towards our own line so it should have been play on.
That's it. Hardly worth some of the abuse he's getting in this thread.
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| Quote: Nothus "All of you guys moaning about him, yet nobody has pinpointed a specific mistake he made. You can't moan about offside or holding down at the ptb because that's the same for both sides, you just can't see Bradford doing it because you're biased.
The only decision I can think of that I think he made a mistake on was the second short kick-off that Rovers did. Child ended up giving KR a scrum feed for a Bulls knock on, but the replays showed every touch going back towards our own line so it should have been play on.
That's it. Hardly worth some of the abuse he's getting in this thread.'"
Ok.
Incorrect play the ball that led to the KR try in first half, player never regained his feet.
Incorrect play the ball in 2nd half by Bulls in 2nd half should have been a either a penalty or a knock on.
High tackle on Kearney on 4th tackle in first half, should have been penalised.
Raised knees by Hull KR causing injury to Olbison who never returned. Finally put on report after intervention by video ref.
Forward pass by Hull KR with a 4 on 3 overlap that we thankfully managed to scramble to defend.
Questionable 'back to six call' that led to Salter try, look to me that offload went forward before coming off Gale.
Just a few that spring immediately to mind.
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| Quote: Bully_Boxer "Ok.
Incorrect play the ball that led to the KR try in first half, player never regained his feet.
Incorrect play the ball in 2nd half by Bulls in 2nd half should have been a either a penalty or a knock on.
High tackle on Kearney on 4th tackle in first half, should have been penalised.
Raised knees by Hull KR causing injury to Olbison who never returned. Finally put on report after intervention by video ref.
Forward pass by Hull KR with a 4 on 3 overlap that we thankfully managed to scramble to defend.
Questionable 'back to six call' that led to Salter try, look to me that offload went forward before coming off Gale.
Just a few that spring immediately to mind.'"
It's going to be even worse when you get the championship refs next season.
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| I'll give you the Kearney high shot, I had forgotten about that, but high shot calls get missed all the time.
No idea which ptbs you are on about and the sky team don't find any that go unpunished.
Forward passes get missed all the time also. Not saying it's acceptable, but the blame for those lies with the touch judges imo.
The back to six call was correct imo.
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| Childs is full time, but not elite , therefore 1a, and hes developement oficer as well overseing level3 refs etc, he gets paid well..not eilte ref level fees who are paid very well.
Some of his decisions last night were baffling to say the least, the knock on call was appalling, just how on gods green earth he came to that i never know, unless he thought that jefferies got his fingertips to it first before kicked on by hall.
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| Quote: BIG HOWARD "its a sad state of affairs....... in the old days you looked to see who was playing for your team, then who was playing for the opposition before a game. now you just look to see who the ref is to see if you have a chance of winning'"
Absolute crap. The stupidity of that staement is immeasurable. I've only seen 2 games out of thousands when a ref was swayed by the (home) crowd.
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| Quote: Roofaldo "TBH, that was the worst display of ref-ing I've seen in a long time.
I don't even think you could call him inconsistent because that suggests that at some points there's some consistency.'"
you really need to get out more mate !
the reffing at Perpignan has been disgraceful this season - honestly, what went off last night at Odsal has been the norm at the GB and i'm not even a Catalans fan !
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| Quote: Bully_Boxer "My main gripe was his lack of control of the defence line and some very lenient referring of the ruck. With respect viewing via the tv, more often than not the camera is focused on the PTB not whether the defending team are retreating the full ten metres.'"
Fair point, but if he called every time the crowd claimed an offside you would be screaming about him not letting the game flow. I didn't see one PTB that upset me.
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| Quote: wildone1865 "The word is consistancy thats all we ask for as fans of the game. But this guy can not even keep both teams the 10 meters back at the play of the ball,and keeping the markers square. Also Mr Hicks,how in the world was that first kr try not obstruction is beyond me.
Please explain what you mean by consistency? Some passes are forward, some are back, some are flat, get over it.
Were they gas, water or electric meters the players were hoarding?
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| Quote: Bully_Boxer "Ok.
Incorrect play the ball that led to the KR try in first half, player never regained his feet.
Incorrect play the ball in 2nd half by Bulls in 2nd half should have been a either a penalty or a knock on.
High tackle on Kearney on 4th tackle in first half, should have been penalised.
Raised knees by Hull KR causing injury to Olbison who never returned. Finally put on report after intervention by video ref.
Forward pass by Hull KR with a 4 on 3 overlap that we thankfully managed to scramble to defend.
Questionable 'back to six call' that led to Salter try, look to me that offload went forward before coming off Gale.
Just a few that spring immediately to mind.'"
They are all your interpretation, not facts. You fail to mention Lulia trying to decapitate Taylor I note, presumably as Child was biased?
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