FORUMS > Bradford Bulls > BullBuilder meets Blake Solly |
![](images/sitelogos/rlfansall.jpg) |
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 1300 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2012 | 13 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2018 | Mar 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: BullBuilder "
In a constructive meeting, we established that SLE look on this as a short-term measure and are confident of attracting a long-term, unconditional bid in the near future.
'"
The conditions have been the purchase of Odsal and SL status. So an unconditional bid would be a championship / championship 1 side playing in an Odsal owned by the RFL. Blake Solly would not say players will be free to find new clubs if there was any intention of the Bulls having a SL team in 2013.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 5280 | ![](images/sitelogos/fullsize/19.png) |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2010 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2024 | Aug 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: Starbug "Ginger is right, 1 st team squad gone, next year you will be watching your u 23 s with a few Leeds loanees and Dual regs from the Giants , running up the hills at Batley and Fev, enjoy'"
Will do.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 28357 | ![](images/sitelogos/fullsize/19.png) |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2024 | Oct 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
973_1515165968.gif Last edited by Ferocious Aardvark on stardate Jun 26, 3013 11:27 am, edited 48,562,867,458,300,023 times in total:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_973.gif |
|
| Quote: Cripesginger "The conditions have been the purchase of Odsal and SL status. So an unconditional bid would be a championship / championship 1 side playing in an Odsal owned by the RFL. Blake Solly would not say players will be free to find new clubs if there was any intention of the Bulls having a SL team in 2013.'"
Yes he would. There is NO intention of SLE owning an SL team in 2013, that much is obvious. Could simply never happen. Yet clearly the SLE's preferred outcome is a Bulls in SL in 2013, otherwise they would not have done what they are doing. If they just wanted us to finish the season then all they had to spend was enough to pay the wages for the remaining games. But personally I can't see it happening.
But players are ordinary people with mortgages and bills, and seeing as SLE are a stopgap owner, in fact I reckon basically till the season ends and no more, what else is possible? The players cannot be left in limbo, they have to be free to do whatever they feel is right for their own futures. They are not slaves. If you can't offer them anything, at all, not even an assurance, then what alternative is there?
SLE could conceivably run the Bulls if no buyer is found as a Championship club. But clearly that would involve most of the best players leaving as they won't want part time pay and who can blame them.
But I can't see where a buyer with millions to waste is going to come from, so I guess that unless I win the Euromillions, the alternatives would be limited to Championship level or oblivion.
It's looking increasingly bleak for me.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 28357 | ![](images/sitelogos/fullsize/19.png) |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2024 | Oct 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
973_1515165968.gif Last edited by Ferocious Aardvark on stardate Jun 26, 3013 11:27 am, edited 48,562,867,458,300,023 times in total:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_973.gif |
|
| Quote: Starbug "Ginger is right, 1 st team squad gone, next year you will be watching your u 23 s with a few Leeds loanees and Dual regs from the Giants , running up the hills at Batley and Fev, enjoy'"
FYI, I have spent many decades very happily going to places such as Batley and Featherstone, and it was indeed always thoroughly enjoyable. I'm off to Keighley for the Leigh game, and I'll enjoy that too. But then I'm not a disrespectful t0sser who despises those sort of clubs.
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Owner | 33944 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2004 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2016 | Mar 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
|
| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "FYI, I have spent many decades very happily going to places such as Batley and Featherstone, and it was indeed always thoroughly enjoyable. I'm off to Keighley for the Leigh game, and I'll enjoy that too. But then I'm not a disrespectful t0sser who despises those sort of clubs.'"
Neither am I, as a former director of one of them and having contacted several of them suggesting ways to improve their ' lot ' and make them more money, I have the utmost respect for all of them, much more in fact than the blue eyed boys of SDL
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 1704 | ![](images/sitelogos/fullsize/78.png) |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2011 | 13 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2023 | Dec 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
61641_1313077623.png [color=#FF0000:18ol665r]A Pie is for life, not just a Wembley Final[/color:18ol665r]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_61641.png |
|
| IF we get a buyer who is NOT prepared to so do, we get ejected from SL and have to see if there is a future within the lower leagues (which personally I doubt).
This is what concerns me more than anything else, you seem to think that the Bulls would have no future in the lower leagues and that is with a current season ticket holding in excess of 8000. If the Bulls couldn't succeed with that kind of following why are every club outside the Super League even bothering playing the game or is it that the Bulls support is only based on a winning team on the field.
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 9986 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2019 | Aug 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
13747_1541715311.jpg [b:3g5rrn89](and I feel fine)[/b:3g5rrn89]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_13747.jpg |
|
| Quote: pie.warrior "IF we get a buyer who is NOT prepared to so do, we get ejected from SL and have to see if there is a future within the lower leagues (which personally I doubt).
This is what concerns me more than anything else, you seem to think that the Bulls would have no future in the lower leagues and that is with a current season ticket holding in excess of 8000. If the Bulls couldn't succeed with that kind of following why are every club outside the Super League even bothering playing the game or is it that the Bulls support is only based on a winning team on the field.'"
How long do you expect crowds of 8000 would last without the chance of promotion? How many would come to watch a team with none of it's star players left? It won't be 8000 for long that's for sure.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 470 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2011 | 13 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2012 | Nov 2012 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: Bulls4Champs ""If the SLE bid is accepted, we understand that players will then be free to speak to other clubs to secure their future for next season. Where recently redundant back room and coaching staff are concerned, there is a likelihood that some may be re-employed."
Is this in relation to our off contract players or all our players?'"
ALL players
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2208 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2024 | Jul 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Three points
1.) The SLE have a potential buyer for the club, only potential mind, who refused to deal with BG
2.) Do you honestly think that SL clubs want to see Bradford in NL1. Bradford would be a massive threat to a SL club outside of SL, you would have a side that was winning week in week out and we know how the Bradford fans love to watch a winning side, you have several thousand stay away fans who would be back like a shot. You would become a problem to a SL club because you would be demanding entry back into SL at the cost of one of its members. If you stay in SL you are less of a problem. Why do you think every SL chair voted in favour of the SLE deal. ( this is the big problem with SL, chairmen vote based on what they think is best for their club rather that what is best for the game, the sooner SLE / RFL gets outside people running the game the better )
3.) Well done Bullbuilder, now is the time for the Bradford fans to give time to Bullbuilder and gain more influence.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 1704 | ![](images/sitelogos/fullsize/78.png) |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2011 | 13 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2023 | Dec 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
61641_1313077623.png [color=#FF0000:18ol665r]A Pie is for life, not just a Wembley Final[/color:18ol665r]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_61641.png |
|
| Quote: debaser "How long do you expect crowds of 8000 would last without the chance of promotion? How many would come to watch a team with none of it's star players left? It won't be 8000 for long that's for sure.'"
And there we have the problem, most on here advocate that the Bulls have to be in super league as they need you and you would be too great a loss. What incentive is there now for all none SL clubs to build and vie for promotion, you don't want the Bulls to be in their position but are happy for them to be in it.
In the last 10 seasons before SL started Halifax were averaging an attendance that equalled Bradfords, if they replaced you what is to say they couldn't build on their support and in a few years be a big club again and valuable to super league
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 10969 | ![](images/sitelogos/fullsize/19.png) |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2023 | Jun 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
1271.jpg Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.
Mark Twain
Build Bridges NOT Walls:1271.jpg |
Moderator
|
| Having read the Bullbuilder interview with Blake Solly it seems to me that we are destined for league 1 or 2, whatever happens. If players are going to be released as soon as the deal is done then SL next season isn't going to be feasible. Similarly with coaching staff; without knowing where the club will be playing how are staff to be contracted.
I guess the only hope is that someone, or a group, comes forward very quickly now the boards have been swept clean. Maybe there really is someone who will commit under the new circumstances, but if SL is to continue in Bradford that division element will need sorting PDQ. The playing and coaching side is Ok but if it is allowed to drift away there is no point in us even thinking about SL next season.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 1300 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2012 | 13 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2018 | Mar 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Yes he would. There is NO intention of SLE owning an SL team in 2013, that much is obvious. Could simply never happen. Yet clearly the SLE's preferred outcome is a Bulls in SL in 2013, otherwise they would not have done what they are doing. If they just wanted us to finish the season then all they had to spend was enough to pay the wages for the remaining games. But personally I can't see it happening.
But players are ordinary people with mortgages and bills, and seeing as SLE are a stopgap owner, in fact I reckon basically till the season ends and no more, what else is possible? The players cannot be left in limbo, they have to be free to do whatever they feel is right for their own futures. They are not slaves. If you can't offer them anything, at all, not even an assurance, then what alternative is there?
SLE could conceivably run the Bulls if no buyer is found as a Championship club. But clearly that would involve most of the best players leaving as they won't want part time pay and who can blame them.
But I can't see where a buyer with millions to waste is going to come from, so I guess that unless I win the Euromillions, the alternatives would be limited to Championship level or oblivion.
It's looking increasingly bleak for me.'"
No he would not.
By taking over now the RFL can guarentee that the Bulls will finish the 2012 season - no other available option atm can offer this with as much certainty.
SLE clubs do not want the Bulls in SL, that is why the RFL have consitently opposed the condition that the Bulls will be in SL in 2013/14.
If the RFL wanted the Bulls in SL they would not encourage all players to seek new contracts elsewhere with immediate effect. They know now that they do not intend the bulls to be in sl in 2013.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 28357 | ![](images/sitelogos/fullsize/19.png) |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2024 | Oct 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
973_1515165968.gif Last edited by Ferocious Aardvark on stardate Jun 26, 3013 11:27 am, edited 48,562,867,458,300,023 times in total:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_973.gif |
|
| Quote: Cripesginger "No he would not.'"
Yes, he would.
Quote: Cripesginger "By taking over now the RFL can guarentee that the Bulls will finish the 2012 season - no other available option atm can offer this with as much certainty.'"
Well, yes, you are stating the obvious.
Quote: Cripesginger "SLE clubs do not want the Bulls in SL, that is why the RFL have consitently opposed the condition that the Bulls will be in SL in 2013/14.'"
5.6767578125:5
|
| |