FORUMS > Bradford Bulls > Bulls simply have to quit Odsal for VP- David Ward MP |
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| I think it's more about the lack of housing and/or the number housing that is laying empty in the city. I live in the ward he covers, only two weeks ago we had a leaflet from him regarding the labour council ignoring the brown field sites for building and ear marking green field land to build on! Could odsal be the brown field land he was going on about what's prime for housing development? Plus he's a city fan so more money in the footy club!
Just a thought
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| Why don't Bradford City move in with Bulls at Odsal?
Genuine question. Is there a reason why? Other than lack of seats?
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| Quote: Bulls Boy 2011 "If we moved to Valley Parade we would inherite up to 50% of the rent price but what if our Odsal rent is £300,000 a year whereas VP is £900,000 a year, we would have to pay £150,000 more than we do now. (Figures are made up for the purpose of this example). In addition to this we would have to pay for the bars to open, stewards, staff etc.
Also burgers at VP are about £4-5 which is higher than the Bulls (not much more but still more), beer is more expensive at VP, all food is, pop is more expensive (how many kids buy pop?). Fans will prefer the Odsal pricing. Don't get me wrong I see all the benefits of moving to VP but I also see more negatives. The Bulls and the Bantams should ground share if a new stadium was built or Odsal was made into an all seater.'"
Who says the Gibb's pension fund would just allow the two clubs to play there for the price of one? Going on your figures of City currently paying £900K pa it's just as, or even more, likely that they'd ask for, say, £600K pa from both clubs; if two clubs are using the facility why wouldn't they want more?
Just for the record, don't forget that the Bulll's crowds dropped alarmingly the last time they played at VP - and that was when they were in their World Champions phase. Could we afford that again?
There is also still the problem of the Odsal lease. If memory serves we we told at the forum that nothing had changed under the lease except that the RFL had taken an intermediate lease between us and then council. It was specifically mentioned that were still responsible for upkeep and I assume that if we no longer play there we would still be responsible for repaying a large slice of the (already spent) settlement money to the council.
I wish that know nothing numpties from the government would keep out of it, to be honest. If it weren't for other know nothing numpties in government we would have had a new ground years ago. You know who you are Mr Byers. I'm pretty sick of these metropolitan apologists popping in to top up their publicity quotient, and Ward should go back London shut up.
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| I’m a fan of both clubs, but I’m still not sure which is the best course of action to move BOTH clubs forward on and off the pitch.
Just to paint a clearer picture… Bradford City pay approximately £380k to Gordon Gibb for stadium rent. The club used to pay the same amount again for the use of the land and offices around the club. However, the Joint-Chairmen financed the purchase of this lease from Prudential last summer.
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| Quote: debaser "Why don't Bradford City move in with Bulls at Odsal?
Genuine question. Is there a reason why? Other than lack of seats?'"
I would imagine there will be an agreement between Gibb and City for them to remain there?
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| Quote: phillgee "I would imagine there will be an agreement between Gibb and City for them to remain there?'"
25-year lease from 2003...
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| What absolute rubbish from this MP. We our paying no where near the costs of what we would be if we were at VP. Thats the main reason City are in so much trouble because the stadium is crippling the club.
Bulls fans don't want to go to VP, this was proven when our attendances sharply fell during the two years we were there. Yes it has seats, bu if this mattered so much to fans the main stand at Odsal would be full every week!!! VP is not not a plesant place, my uncle had his car radio nicked when we went there to see a game. Don't think i would take a young family there.
Odsal has fantastic parking, easy access to the motorway.
The only people this would benefit would be Bradford City. Also Mr Ward doesn't say what he would do with Odsal afterwards. Just what Bradford needs, another huge hole in the city.
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| Mark Lawn said he didnt think the bulls could afford to move to vp on an interview on the pulse today.
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| Quote: Bull Mania " We our paying no where near the costs of what we would be if we were at VP.
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How much to Bulls pay now, how much would they pay at VP?
Quote: Bull Mania "Don't think i would take a young family there.'"
Really, why not? I've taken my young daughter without a problem. My mates have taken their young families for years. It's not the locals is it?
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| At least Galloway won us four matches. Matbe Ward is hoping to claim he saved City from relegation. I am a Bradfordian and had never heard of the bloke before. Don't know whether this says more about him or me.
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| Quote: rugbyreddog "At least Galloway won us four matches. Matbe Ward is hoping to claim he saved City from relegation. I am a Bradfordian and had never heard of the bloke before. Don't know whether this says more about him or me.'"
I've heard of him, in fact I voted for him. I thought that he would be a better bet to keep the tory out than the labour candidate. Turned out I was both right and wrong. It won't happen again.
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| Quote: tigertot "How much to Bulls pay now, how much would they pay at VP?
Really, why not? I've taken my young daughter without a problem. My mates have taken their young families for years. It's not the locals is it?'"
City are paying over £1million in rent to Gibb. If the Bulls are paying anywhere near that in maintenance costs, there is something seriously wrong.
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| Quote: Bull Mania "City are paying over £1million in rent to Gibb. If the Bulls are paying anywhere near that in maintenance costs, there is something seriously wrong.'"
Bulls aren't paying rent to RFL? They may well be liable for insurance of Odsal as well.
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