Tomkins made contact with the ref' too. Wonder if he'll get the three matches Bailey did.

Thaler had a poor night, and he used to be a better ref. he seems to have put a fair bit of timber on, and it's affecting his positioning.

However, and extremely irritating though it was to see Leeds score the opener off two ridculously obvious forward passes, he was never helped on the forwards all night by Methuselah and Ezekiel, I'm not ageist, they just need to do their job but these guys couldn't see anything.

He also wasn't helped (probably - since we fans aren't let in on these secrets any more) by an edict from above that says manoeuvring on top of the tackled player, and a couple of seconds of "prone statue" pose, are now acceptable, as is a dinosaur-like one second delay on "move".

One Leeds tactic which was certainly illegal last year is one where a player (often Sinfield) ends up covering the tackled player, sideways. He just stays still in that position till the ref shouts, but then instead of getting off, gets up by putting both hands on the tackled players back, and pushing off him as he manoeuvres through 90 degrees into position at marker.

Leeds were masters of slowing down our PTB, and it was so monotonous I assume it must be legal. For a spell in the first half I watched the tackles against my stopwatch, and there where whole sets where the tackles took between 5 - 7 seconds and that is just too long.

Are you serious ? Get a life mate.

What do you mean by that?

so apparently he got nothing right..... was thaler wrong to send off hargreaves for a tackle that is in my book a 'neckbreaker'?

No, should have been L'Estrange.

As your comment proves indisputably that you didn't actually see the tackle, I award you an epic fail.

Well seeing as he got the wrong player, yes it would be safe to assume he got nothing right.

forgive me as i was 150 metres away from all the action (yes thats a dig at odsal being a hole!) and havent seen a replay nor have i heard any news reports defending hargreaves by passing the blame to l'estrange i stand by what i say!!! nothings been said about this horrendous tackle! imagine if it was bailey who did the spear tackle.....these boards would be on fire with abuse for him!!

hypocrisy reigns!!

Oh dear our ""Chubby"" little friend is browned off cause he's been shown up, whether its Hargreaves or LeStrange is now irrelevant till tomorrows call by the Judiciary, then the Club can see which defence it may have to make on whose behalf

Your dig at Odsal is stupid if you compare to being at the further reaches of OT.Wembley or Twickenham

As the SL show and Sky have already been on, I was going to ask how can you by the time of your post possibly not have seen it, but then I realised you probably can't find your remote.

Still, if you made a mistake watching it "live" and admit you couldn't see properly, that would be fine, but what a muppet you are to "stand by" what you say.


Nope. It turned out a very bad tackle, because L'Estrange lifted the legs just as Hargreaves was bringing the torso down and the combination spun peacock on his head. But there was no malice in it. Just a really pis5poor tackling technique. Which will be punished with the ban it deserves.

And it's feck-all to do with Bailey, so run along with your chip now, there's a good lad.

The level of trolling these days is appauling.

My main grouse was with his positioning. Quite a few times he had his back to the play or was looking over his shoulder.