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| A Bradford Northern starting out in Championship 1 run by people the supporters can have faith in the intentions of, and confidence in, sounds far more preferable than a "saved" Bradford Bulls limping along from problem to problem and bail out to bail out year in, year out.
However I only think the first option should be considered after the current club/business goes into administration if there are no takers to try and take the club forward.
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| I'd come to a meeting on Monday if there is one.
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| We have an emergency Bullbuilder board meeting tomorrow evening. We need to have that meeting before we can say anything further.
Remember that the Bullbuilder board members are all unpaid volunteers, and are busy people with day (and in some cases half the night as well  ) jobs. I'd bear that in mind when suggesting the Bullbuilder should take some action.
IF people are keen on the idea of seeking to do something through a supporters trust, then IMO it would be totally insane to try and set up a new vehicle for that purpose. It takes months, and a load of hassle - been there, done that - and go ask Wakey: they had exactly the same issue. Bullbuilder's constitution DOES allow it to act in the required capacity. But whether Bullbuilder SHOULD take on any such role is, in the first instance, a matter for the BB board and the BB membership. Tomorrow's meeting will doubtless consider all the representations made.
In all this, I am speaking in a purely personal capacity, and not officially on behalf of Bullbuilder.
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| Quote MicktheGled="MicktheGled"Unfortunately I don't agree with a Hood out campaign. So we must knock this on the head straight away.
We as supporters need to be dignified and unified in this most pressing of battles.'"
I agreed yours is a better idea mate.
I'll do everything in my power to help the Bulls whether its directly through the club, through Bullbuilder or through a new group.
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| None of us have a bottomless pot of cash, or wed have given it to the club already. Giving now and worrying about the future later is exactly the reason we are in this mess. I could pledge, but not afford to give again for a fair while. I'd love to see a new, fan based club, and would support it with my time and some money, but not if the current board are involved. This is 2012 - judgement time!!! We cannot get this wrong!!!! A new club along the lines of FC UNited could be the only long term , sustaniable option!
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| Is it not a bit too late to be trying to set up a supporters trust now? we need this money by the 6th April, so it seems a bit late in the day to have an initial meeting on Monday?
I could get behind Bullbuilder doing something if they decide to do so after tomorrows meeting, though.
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| Quote RTB="RTB"Is it not a bit too late to be trying to set up a supporters trust now? we need this money by the 6th April, so it seems a bit late in the day to have an initial meeting on Monday?
I could get behind Bullbuilder doing something if they decide to do so after tomorrows meeting, though.'"
There isn't a cat in hells chance of 500k being raised from "normal" fans in 11 days, unless there is something in the way of a big investment already lined up which, given the way this "pledge" appeal seems to be being marketed wouldn't come as a complete surprise.
For me there needs to be some action taken towards securing a longer term future for Bradford RL which an independent body of people has to take up.
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| working through the existing supporters trust would seem to me, as an outsider, a good middle ground proposition. They could hold on to funds raised/pledged and then use this bargaining power to negotiate with the existing board. Should they receive acceptable answers and assurances they could then pass on the money, perhaps in exchange for shares, otherwise the money would become a war chest for a future new club.
Also could the Leeds fixture be arranged at a time when no other games are on and encourage RL fans to make a donation for a ticket. What's the official capacity at Odsal these days?
Good luck with it all.
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| Quote MicktheGled="MicktheGled"Just moments ago I had confirmation of a £2,500 donation to the Supporters Trust.
I can get hold of a room in Field House (Bradford Royal Infirmary) next Monday for the proposed meeting.'"
Mick .I am thinking of making a donation.If you can fill me in with everything ,and the plans.you if you pm me on here or FB I will give you my adress and phone number.Best wishes Eddie
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| Well, Asims post re: a Northern club run by the fans is an extremely attractive one to me. But naturally, if the club can survive (and NOT have a repeat of this again) that would obviously be the preferred route.
Good to know BullBuilder could get involved though.
The meeting is still intended to go ahead Monday.
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| You should try and get the 24k that attended Bulls Leeds in 1999 to pay £20 each to watch the game on good friday, that would solve a lot.
Would it really grate on your passholders to pay another £20?
Just an idea like...
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Quote AaronBull="AaronBull"Well, Asims post re: a Northern club run by the fans is an extremely attractive one to me. But naturally, if the club can survive (and NOT have a repeat of this again) that would obviously be the preferred route.
Good to know BullBuilder could get involved though.
The meeting is still intended to go ahead Monday.'"
Hi Aaron, I think the idea of a meeting is an excellent one and I'm also very happy Bullbuilder is having an emergency meeting.
Have a look at the ownership structure detailed here - community owned, impossible for one person to take over and also hugely successful against the odds. I think we should be lobbying for a share issue along these lines.
www.packers.com/community/shareholders.html
It's one thing to beg for money to bail out private businessmen it's another to say we want you to invest £100 a share to become an 'owner' of the club.
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Quote AaronBull="AaronBull"Well, Asims post re: a Northern club run by the fans is an extremely attractive one to me. But naturally, if the club can survive (and NOT have a repeat of this again) that would obviously be the preferred route.
Good to know BullBuilder could get involved though.
The meeting is still intended to go ahead Monday.'"
Hi Aaron, I think the idea of a meeting is an excellent one and I'm also very happy Bullbuilder is having an emergency meeting.
Have a look at the ownership structure detailed here - community owned, impossible for one person to take over and also hugely successful against the odds. I think we should be lobbying for a share issue along these lines.
www.packers.com/community/shareholders.html
It's one thing to beg for money to bail out private businessmen it's another to say we want you to invest £100 a share to become an 'owner' of the club.
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