If Hull win something with Ellis, he'll be credited as playing a major role in turning around their fortunes.

If Ellis came back to Leeds, to be part of another title winning side, he'll just be another good player in a long line of good players, playing second fiddle to the likes of Sinfield et al. who have been there for the duration of the successful period. Ellis was also part of that in the past as well - going to Hull is more of a fresh challenge.

More scope for individual glory at Hull IMO, assuming he's not being offered more money as the reports claim.

if you look at FC's squad it is very thin on experience in comparison to last year. with tickle,westerman and manu and their pack will be complemented by ellis - but agree back row is not a priority for us assuming we keep who we have and they want to stay?

Ellis would have been a great signing for any club.
He chooses Hull, and good on them for securing him, no matter what the personal or financial reasons.
Good to see a quality player back in SL.

And no, I could not see him with a 3 year contact in the Bulls team. I think (and hope) we are building a kick- backrow for a much longer period.

Ellis is a quality player who'd improve any back row in SL. However, I for one, am actually glad we didn't sign him.

This is because we've had trouble with big name marque signings who for whatever reason failed to justify their VERY large pay packet and their significant drain on our salary cap has meant we've either lost players who were already in our side or missed out on signings that would have strengthened our side back to a more competitive team early than we're now seeing.

I'd much rather see the large money that Ellis will command (and yes he will be wanting a fair slice of the salary cap pie, despite what is being reported in the press) used to tie down players like Bateman, Burgess and Crookes to long term deals. I'd rather have them here for 5 years + than have Ellis here for 3

Ellis is a quality player and is better NOW than anything the bulls have in the SR, however you do have some cracking potential in that position who are playing well now and will improve, Bateman is a cracking player and would prefer he got the game time and improved.

You have to consider what Ellis will be like in 3 or 4 years & how much he wants for those later years.

Have we ever broke the bank to sign at immense and destabilising weekly wages an ageing tyro, who had indisputably been one of the best, but approaching the back end of their career, and if so how did it go?

Menzies and tbh it went pretty well until he left

You can stick that up your 'Harris...

dont be orford Adey

How dare you use such a disgraceful word on these forums!!! Children are reading!!! I fear I must report you to Site Admin for using such foul and profane language. To say I am seriously disappointed with you would be a massive understatement. For shame, sir!!!

I was more concerned about law suits arising from an earlier claim that you WERE Orford.

By that I obviously mean law suits from Orford at being called an accountant...