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Sam Tomkins would Rip the nrl up no doubt maybe not as much as super league,And defence isnt as good as slater but make no bones about it he is as good as slater and only time will prove this and id say this to the doubters you will be not saying the same in 3 to 5 years when he is a legend !!!!!!!!!!!! ps is he made of elastic what a dream to watch play from a widnes fan,my guess is wigan will let him go 4 years into his contract to shut the world up about how he cant cut it in the nrl beacause he will !!!!!

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Quote: JBT1991 "Lesley Vainikolo..........BOOM'"

Lesley Vainikolo on 1 wing and offiah on the other now that would have been be a force icon_biggrin.gif .ps did u rate stuart spruce as fullback ?

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Quote: viking.gb "Sam Tomkins would Rip the nrl up no doubt maybe not as much as super league,And defence isnt as good as slater but make no bones about it he is as good as slater and only time will prove this and id say this to the doubters you will be not saying the same in 3 to 5 years when he is a legend !!!!!!!!!!!! ps is he made of elastic what a dream to watch play from a widnes fan,my guess is wigan will let him go 4 years into his contract to shut the world up about how he cant cut it in the nrl beacause he will !!!!!'"

Yeah but can he chip the ball over Iestyn Harris' head in a challenge cup final and score like Nathan McAvoy? i think not.

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I think to compare him now to the likes of Slater is an insult to Slater. He's been the best fullback in the world for years. Tomkins hasn't even reached the height of anything like that yet. It's not tomkins doing the talking so it's maybe a little unfair to play down his ability.

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And Spruce read the game well but was a little slow to be classed as a real quality fullback. Was a massive player for the bulls mind when he came. And Vainikolo was the best winger in SL era. No one touches him on that one.

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I heard Sam walks like John Wayne after being bummed so much by Sky Sports

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I revel in his play, awesome to watch with an almost complete range of talents.
He dares anything and sees no boundaries, with the rarest talent that everything he does is instinctive.
If this is an example of what SL can provide from young players then we are in good shape.
Comparison with Billy Slater is probably an honor, but I suspect Sam thinks differently. Whist a short way off completion, that completion will eclipse any living full back.

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Quote: dixie "I think to compare him now to the likes of Slater is an insult to Slater. He's been the best fullback in the world for years. Tomkins hasn't even reached the height of anything like that yet. It's not tomkins doing the talking so it's maybe a little unfair to play down his ability.'"

Wrong if ur good enough you are good enough you dont need to have to be good for years, sam is good enough and i bet billy has heard of sam no doubt,billy deserves respect but no way is it an insult,If anything its a compliment because sam is so good even billy slater would be impressed.Any way only time will tell but hes defo the best player in our super league and hes english yeahhhhhhh icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: bobsmyuncle "I revel in his play, awesome to watch with an almost complete range of talents.
He dares anything and sees no boundaries, with the rarest talent that everything he does is instinctive.
If this is an example of what SL can provide from young players then we are in good shape.
Comparison with Billy Slater is probably an honor, but I suspect Sam thinks differently. Whist a short way off completion, that completion will eclipse any living full back.'"

Well said i think time will tell if he will become the worlds number 1 fullback,and on that note im a widnes fan and watch out for a young man named danny hulme good up and coming british youngster,Davids lad icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: cieranblonde "I heard Sam walks like John Wayne after being bummed so much by Sky Sports'"

Only after bumming your team to death lol a026.gif

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Good night 1 thing we can all say is there are a lot of good young english players coming through and that can only be a good thing ,we havent seen anything as good as sam since offiah in my opinion.And kopzak looked good tonight as well as young burgess so things are looking up in the british stakes icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: viking.gb "Sam Tomkins would Rip the nrl up no doubt maybe not as much as super league,And defence isnt as good as slater but make no bones about it he is as good as slater and only time will prove this and id say this to the doubters you will be not saying the same in 3 to 5 years when he is a legend !!!!!!!!!!!! ps is he made of elastic what a dream to watch play from a widnes fan,my guess is wigan will let him go 4 years into his contract to shut the world up about how he cant cut it in the nrl beacause he will !!!!!'"


A fair analysis.

However, Tomkins defence is still awesome, just look at the high balls he took in the semi-final. Look at the tackle on Lomax one on one. He is class.

Remember though, this is Tomkins second full season.

SCARY.

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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]:



Quote: viking.gb "Wrong if ur good enough you are good enough you dont need to have to be good for years, sam is good enough and i bet billy has heard of sam no doubt,billy deserves respect but no way is it an insult,If anything its a compliment because sam is so good even billy slater would be impressed.Any way only time will tell but hes defo the best player in our super league and hes english yeahhhhhhh The NRL turns players out with the level of tomkin talents every season! There is a kid playing for the warriors at 7 Shaun Johnson who is ripping it up after 4 first grade games! If Tomkin scored a try like Johnson did against the broncs the Sky sports team as well as the pie fans would have drown in their own cum.

tomkin as good as he is has a long way to go and there are 20 kids as good as tomkin in the NRL as well as tons of seasoned pros who are better and done more in a much tougher comp, at origin and international level.

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Quote: dixie "I think to compare him now to the likes of Slater is an insult to Slater. He's been the best fullback in the world for years. Tomkins hasn't even reached the height of anything like that yet. It's not tomkins doing the talking so it's maybe a little unfair to play down his ability.'"

I don't think to compare them is an insult to slater, if you didn't compare players you'd never know who was better. I would say that to claim he's better than slater would be slightly unfair to slater, as you say he's been the best fullback in the world for years. Its one thing to be worldclass over a season or two (sam is worldclass, I think it would be hard to argue otherwise), but another to be the standout player in your position in the world over a number of years. The lad is 22, nowhere near his prime and is progressing at a fantastic rate. He's the best player in the super league and is being spoken about as being one of the best fullbacks in the world, a position he has been playing for a year and a half. To compare him to players of the past is somewhat unfair, you're comparing a glittering career of the likes of Hanley or Edwards (or indeed the current career of Slater) to that of a lad who can count the number of seasons he's played on one hand. He may turn out to be the best player to grace a rugby field, or he may turn out to be what he already is, a very very good fullback. Like you say, it's not sam making the claims or comparisons, and why should pundits and commentators play down a brilliant talent? They are there to entertain the audience and the sport should be bigging up the likes of tomkins and Roby, would you rather they said "well it's debateable if they'd cope in Australia, much better league there don't you know"?

Sam Tomkins is a very good player who seems to be getting better by the week. He has the potential to be a great, he's English and he's doing a fantastic job for my team. At 22 I wouldn't change him and look forward to seeing his progression as I'm sure there's more to come. The rest is maybes and only time will tell.

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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]:



Quote: Odemwingie "A fair analysis.

However, Tomkins defence is still awesome, just look at the high balls he took in the semi-final. Look at the tackle on Lomax one on one. He is class.

Remember though, this is Tomkins second full season.

SCARY.'"

Tomkin is awesome no doubt but read my post above. He would be awesome in the NRL but so are plenty of others! In SL he stands out down here he would be one of many super freak players.

It would be a crime if he doesnt play in Oz in his prime. To truly fulfill his potential he needs to play NRL

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