And herein a prime example of a typical ted response.

Name instances of these cheap shots that you are privvy to and the referees aren't?

Would I like somebody in our side to do the same even if it was the case? Yes. Jimmy Lowes, Fairbank, Bradley et al were hardly paragons of virtue.

Average player? With 4 Grand Final winners medals. More than most of our team put together. (Diskin doesn't count clearly given he was also ex Leeds)

If he joined the club, I would be impressed. If you base your loyalty and ressonance on following the club around your ill conceived theatrical adjudication of player roles, then maybe you should sod off somewhere else.

Just my opinion of course

Ah so you're one of them, when your opinion is not the same as someone elses they automatically become a '' as you put it. I won't stoop to your level even though I disagree with you.

Dirty antics aside I don't agree that he 'falls into the nasty but very effective role', I find him the opposite and more often than not he goes missing when needed, I just find him 'nasty'.

Why is it barrel scraping? Define

Why don't you rate him? Are you privy to insider knowledge that Tony Smith, Brian McClennan, Brian Noble and Brian Mac haven't been - given they have all selected him repeatedly at varying levels?

And who would you like to see instead, on a likely similar modest wage, with medals in the cupboard, rep jerseys in the locker, grand final rings on ebay and genuine animal?

Yes that's right, you can't name many.

Get over the demonised sportsman model. Rather a nasty winner than a friendly loser.

It might be in bad taste but Terry Newton was the dirtiest player in SL. But also world class at his peak & just what hookers used to be like. He wouldn't have lasted long with the likes of Tony Fisher, mind. Were you of the same opinion when Terry joined? 99% of Bailey's reputation is rubbish.

I wasn't a fan of Terry as a player (RIP), I found him a niggly and also a dirty player, he also tended to go missing when the pack really needed to stand firm.

That simply makes no sense. At all.



Learned coaches, fans, winners medals, opponents and statistics would contradict that ill founded view. However feel free to opine terrace trash in the face of strong contrary evidence.

To bring Terry Newton into this debate further rubbishes your ludicrous, unfounded standpoint.

It doesn't make any sense because the swear filter swapped your lovely insult for the words 'nice guy'.

You really do like the sound of your own voice and for what it's worth I didn't bring Terry into the debate.

Sadly, your rantings still made no sense. Similarly, you have failed to substantiate your ill-founded views regarding Bailey originally used as spurious mitigation for not signing him.



Are you using a Speak n Spell?

Your nonsensical view of Terry Newton, is similarly way off beam. And wrong. Indeed arguably the most ill-founded ever to grace these boards. Congratulations.

So the rumors of Moore to leeds were true, after his announcement and griffin still heavily rumoured does this spell the end of baileys Leeds career? It's looking to be gaining more and Moore substance. I for one would be thrilled with his signing!

Ditto. Sadly unlikely, given they lost Burgess, Cross and Ambler/Pitts are "still out learning their trade". In their pomp, I recall them having 5 front line props since, as with most teams, one is usually injured/carrying one/rested/out of form and 4 props in a 17 is the norm. Peacock, Kylie, Bailey, Moore, Griffin looks pretty strong from the outside. Griffin would have been a worthy addition for us along with Moore and Bailey. I'm pretty happy with Scruton, Koppy, Lynch and Hargreaves but all lack real nasty animal.

I said I did not rate him as a player and that I would not welcome him at the club, my opinions of course so what exactly needs to be substantiated?



It's fairly simple really, you accused me of bringing Terry into the debate and I stated that I did not, it was in fact another member who did that, I just responded to his question.

I look forward to your next batch of waffle.