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| Quote: Harrigan "Doesn't have to be intentional. It was reckless though and as others have said, it was a send off offence but no further action should be taken.'"
Taken from bbc's report: "He appeared to try to dislodge the ball from Tomkins' hands but referee Steve Ganson decided he intended to harm the player"
So the referee believed there was in intent and thats why he sent him off according to BBC. As I have said previously I personally dont feel it warranted a red card.
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| Probably has to be classed as "reckless" rather than "careless", even if no way deliberate.
In that case, had the boot been on the other foot we would have been clamouring for a red card. But given lack of intent (no matter what the fekkwittery from the Piedome would have you believe) would have to be SOS.
Sort of like we were two weeks ago against fax, when what looked to all he world like a smash in Lynch's face was not red-carded.
Or a few weeks ago when we all saw Webb smash Elima in the face as he scored, but nothing eventuated.
It is the sodding inconsistency - especially when it forever seems not to be in our favour - that is winding people up, I feel?
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| Quote: Adeybull "Probably has to be classed as "reckless" rather than "careless", even if no way deliberate.
In that case, had the boot been on the other foot we would have been clamouring for a red card. But given lack of intent (no matter what the fekkwittery from the Piedome would have you believe) would have to be SOS.
Sort of like we were two weeks ago against fax, when what looked to all he world like a smash in Lynch's face was not red-carded.
Or a few weeks ago when we all saw Webb smash Elima in the face as he scored, but nothing eventuated.
[sizeIt is the sodding inconsistency - especially when it forever seems not to be in our favour - that is winding people up, I feel?[/[/sizequote]
You've got it in one old chap.
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| Quote: Adeybull "Probably has to be classed as "reckless" rather than "careless", even if no way deliberate.
In that case, had the boot been on the other foot we would have been clamouring for a red card. But given lack of intent (no matter what the fekkwittery from the Piedome would have you believe) would have to be SOS.
Sort of like we were two weeks ago against fax, when what looked to all he world like a smash in Lynch's face was not red-carded.
Or a few weeks ago when we all saw Webb smash Elima in the face as he scored, but nothing eventuated.
Yup!
It is the sodding inconsistency - especially when it forever seems not to be in our favour - that is winding people up, I feel?'"
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| Quote: purplechick "Taken from bbc's report
Ganson didn't have a clue so how he knows that Raynor intended to harm Tomkins is beyond me.
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| Quote: Mick Gledhill "Ganson didn't have a clue so how he knows that Raynor intended to harm Tomkins is beyond me.
Because it's only natural?
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| Quote: Mick Gledhill "Ganson didn't have a clue so how he knows that Raynor intended to harm Tomkins is beyond me.
Maybe the Clown was watching the game live in Oz and tweeted him to tell him what to do?
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| Quote: debaser "Because it's only natural?
I could give you another stat about Ganson and Bulls players sent off but I won't.
Paul Anderson
Ben Harris
Leon Pryce
Joe Vagana
Paul Sykes
Gareth Raynor
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| As Adey says, the inconsistency is the most annoying thing.
At the time I thought the red was harsh. Watching in slow motion really does make it look 10x worse though. Has to be asked though, if it wasn't televised would Raynor have seen red?
If Webb had got red and the fax player too then I wouldn't have been half as miffed.
Tomkins looked fine walking down the tunnel too, and I swear I could see a hint of a smirk there (but maybe that's just cos I don't like the kid)
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| It was a sending off but I have no sympathy for Sam Tompkins who seems to want to drag RL down to football's level by faking penalties and crying when things don't go his way.
Let's be honest it helped us out really.
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| not a red card, bet ganson wouldn't have given it if he hadn't been on tv.
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| Quote: Ewwenorfolk "As Adey says, the inconsistency is the most annoying thing.
At the time I thought the red was harsh. Watching in slow motion really does make it look 10x worse though. Has to be asked though, if it wasn't televised would Raynor have seen red?
If Webb had got red and the fax player too then I wouldn't have been half as miffed.
Tomkins looked fine walking down the tunnel too, and I swear I could see a hint of a smirk there (but maybe that's just cos I don't like the kid)'"
My friend over in the Popular side above the tunnel rung me at half time to say that Tomkins had been smirking and winking at the Bulls supporters stood near the tunnel mate, so they maybe some truth in that.
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| When I was stalking out of the ground, I was muttering that Ganson should rot in the very darkest deepest pit of hell.
Having had time to reconsider, I realise that I was a tad hasty and too damning in my initial judgment.
Maybe about three floors up from the bottom would in fact be adequate punishment...
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| He did well scoring a try while unconscious.
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