Based on the fact that many of the players are making the same mistakes and there seems to be complete confusion in the defence throughout all the players I am inclined to think its a couching issue and the system isn't working. Most of the players seem completely lost and players who are normally defensively sound are being completey exposed.

Obviously the players need to shoulder some of the responsibilty (missed tackles etc) but I feel the issue goes deeper than the players just not doing what they are told.

One thing that springs to my mind is that they obviously train as a defending team and an attacking team, one vs the other. Based on what we've seen in our attack, we probably look good defensively in training!

sorry i know its only a typo but i think you hit the nail on the head.it is certainly a couching issue as most of them are sat on their backsides.

take them team building to build rafts or something. that will help.

Make your mind up Mike - it was Paintballing the other day...!

The way our players are getting injured I don't think paintballing would be the best idea!

That would seem to be close to the truth but it's time for LSH to walk or be shown the door as the pally pally attitude with the players isn't helping to stop the rot.

I think we've been vulnerable, especially if the opposition spread the play or in broken play, for a number of years now. Whilst I wouldn't expect the changes to be instant, Potter must have been aware of the problem when he came and I would have expected the defence to be stronger than it has been... surely it would have been the main focus pre-season?

If LSH is our defensive coach questions have to be asked. The feeling I get is that the club tried to keep some consistancy from last season to this and that they try to keep the same defensive set up from one season to the next as well as from the senior squad to the juniors... Why you would stick with something that obviously hasn't work though I can't say...

This rather says it all.

push the line up and drift(no crazy mofo running out of the line!!!), the whole line has to move, with players pushing from the inside, this forces their attack to step back in and BANG the players pushing from the middle hit them....simple as!

Spot on about the defensive attitude. Mick Potter has brought in a new defensive system and totally revamped the marker system as well which is implemented right through out all the age groups at bulls. I know this through other coaches involved with bulls

Which has resulted in ... us getting hammered for not being square.

Pretty much mate yeah, so there is 2 options be patient and wait for it to click and players to adjust or cut our losses and try change it again half way through the season when we have a she load more areas to also work on

Christ, I'm sorry, but if it really is the case that the players have not learnt a "new" defensive technique in what 6 months, then there really is no hope.

Well I suppose Andrew Bennet could try and get a sponsorship from a Swiss Cheese Manufacturer!

I did suggest that MP re enforces the Defensive line with judicious use of Cattle Prods during Training!

The Defensive Line was as bad as was when we played at Stains last year and no Worrincy to blame this time!

The Senior Players are not taking enough responsibility on the field of play and the youngsters are getting caught out, same as last year!