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Quote: Bully_Boxer "At the very least I thought there was a fair call for it to be our feed at the scrum.'"

It's obvious walker knocked the ball forward? Easy call. you are clutching at straws!

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Quote: sgtwilko "Didn't ya have s big lead at headingley when orford was jumping about as if you had won it after Nero scored?'"


Well game finished 22 all so lead cant have been that great.

Plus orford is a tit.

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Quote: sgtwilko "It's obvious walker knocked the ball forward? Easy call. you are clutching at straws!'"


So obvious it took twenty viewings in super slo-mo...

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I'm just happy that I was a bit gutted at the end, to be honest I've found it hard to be bothered by any result over the last year or two.

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there was nothing conculsive to say that chev knocked the ball on, he looked at it about 20 times and still couldnt say for definate so should have been benefit of doubt.


When leulai scored his try at the ptb buderus was walking back towards an onside position, at the moment of the ptb he was offside..then collected the pass near the line..should have been pen to us but ref didnt ask him to look for it.

Penalty try yes as ah van was too far away to cover.

At the end of the day we took our foot off the gas thinking w ehad won it, leeds got a roll on and they did us..leeds were missing plenty of players and we should ahve had them but with jones bishop in instead of smith it actually made them better as dont think smith would have scored them.

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Quote: ritz "there was nothing conculsive to say that chev knocked the ball on, he looked at it about 20 times and still couldnt say for definate so should have been benefit of doubt.
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Exactly. If a video ref views the same footage and angle SO many times there is obviously some doubt! The benefit of doubt ruling is used inconsistently far too often for my liking.

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Quote: Bully_Boxer "Exactly. If a video ref views the same footage and angle SO many times there is obviously some doubt! The benefit of doubt ruling is used inconsistently far too often for my liking.'"

There needs to be a time limit on VR decisions, say 90 seconds. Looking at something for three minutes using the same couple of angles over and over again proves that the VR couldn't decide what he was seeing.

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Quote: Bully_Boxer "Exactly. If a video ref views the same footage and angle SO many times there is obviously some doubt! The benefit of doubt ruling is used inconsistently far too often for my liking.'"


The ball **possibly** brushed his elbow (the many, many replays were inconclusive) after he kicked the ball against the defender from a foot away. He was looking in the opposite direction. No way in hell did he make a play for it - any marginal contact was utterly minimal and irrelevant to the trajectory of the ball

Frankly, it was a terrible decision - entirely typical of Silverwood.

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Or you could take a complete different look at it and say..chev kicked ball..ball hit leeds player..leeds player had no control of ball..walker went to tackle leeds player without the ball...penalty to leeds.

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Quote: ritz "Or you could take a complete different look at it and say..chev kicked ball..ball hit leeds player..leeds player had no control of ball..walker went to tackle leeds player without the ball...penalty to leeds.'"


...in which case why didn't the referee or the video ref even hint that this was an option> I don't even recall the pro-Leeds commentary team suggest it.

No. The ONLY issue at stake was whether Walker knocked on

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Walker undoubtedly knocked on, it's not even debatable. Whether it was deliberate, fair or slight is irrelevant.

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Quote: tigertot "Walker undoubtedly knocked on, it's not even debatable. Whether it was deliberate, fair or slight is irrelevant.'"

If it was without doubt, why so many replays of the same footage?

To be honest I'm over it, I saw enough today to suggest we have a much better season to look forward to. It just seems like we rarely get the benefit of doubt from the video referee in the big matches.

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terrace singer - how can u say same old bulls? they were far better than ive seen us play in the last two years under maccas reign we didnt look or play like a team at all i think today was a good sample of what is to come i think we can definetly go far this year with the team we've got

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Quote: Bully_Boxer "If it was without doubt, why so many replays of the same footage?
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To get the right angle & decision. At first I thought it was a dead cert try. It must have been at least 10 showings before I changed my mind. Not that I am against a time limit on decisions. But then there would be instances of Sky showing replays which subsequently indicate a wrong decision. Cue more hysteria.

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Quote: debaser "So obvious it took twenty viewings in super slo-mo...'"


If Walker didn't knock it forward, how did the ball travel forward?

You're not seriously suggesting it came off his leg are you?

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