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| Quote: Bully_Boxer "Are you being serious?
Let me start off by saying I seriously doubt we could afford somebody of his quality and reputation. So I hope people do not get their hopes up for a Craig Bellamy stepping into the hot seat.
However if money was no object and the decision was mine, Bellamy would be among the 3 or 4 coaches that I would pick from. I the Bulls need to do something to inspire the fans back up to Odsal. We signed big name players like Matt Orford (people on this very forum wanted a 'marque' signing) and it has had done nothing to increase the crowds. I think the next appointment is very important to the long term future of the club. The appointment ideally needs to be a popular one and somebody that will re-ignite some interest back into the club.
I'd question Hood's judgement if he had the opportunity and means to bring in a World class coach and passed on the opportunity! Unfortunately I expect this is nothing but a silly rumour, if we end up with a Denis Bett/James Lowes/Harrison appointment then I expect team card memberships to drop on this years figures.
Out of the more realistic targets, I'd love to see Mick Potter at the Bulls.'"
Or it could be merely opportunity cost. The manager/coach is arguably far more important than the players. See Mourinho, Ferguson, Ancelotti, Capello, Van Gaal, Bellamy, Bennett, Gibson, Lombardi et al
Given that Orford is evidently on a hefty salary, it could be argued that the club could have coaxed nigh on any coach in the game. And what could Wayne Bennett, Craig Bellamy, Tony Smith, John Lang, Tim Sheens do with the current Bulls squad.
Significant amounts arguably.
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| Quote: Ewwenorfolk "And you know this how??'"
I'm afriad I will not say but I guarantee that he will not be our head coach next season!
And if he does, I will expose my rear end on the town all steps for all to mock and kick!
But seriosuly, he will not be our coach next year
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| Quote: Bit_of_bully "I'm afriad I will not say ...'"
Translation: "I'm afraid I do not know. "
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "
Well if you would like to have a little bet i will kindly take your money off you.
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| Bellamy aint that good, he has cheated his way to the reputation he has. I doubt he would be where he is today if they hadnt cheated the cap.
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| Quote: Bit_of_bully "Well if you would like to have a little bet i will kindly take your money off you.'"
Don't be even more stupid, the bet is not whether Bellamy is our next coach, which is on any view unlikely, but whether you have specific inside information. And nobody believes for one second that you do, so give it a rest as it's embarrasing.
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| Quote: Richard_bull "Bellamy aint that good, he has cheated his way to the reputation he has. I doubt he would be where he is today if they hadnt cheated the cap.'"
Yeh, it's a doddle moulding top class players into a winning team. Especially if you are French.
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| Quote: Bully_Boxer "Out of the more realistic targets, I'd love to see Mick Potter at the Bulls.'" He'd be a good option for you. He's done well at keeping Saints at the right end of the table with limited resources. I think he'd do a good job of getting bradford back on their feet and bringing on the youngsters you appear to have around the fringes.
He wants to go home though, so you may have to crank your offer up to secure him, which may not be worth it.
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| Denis Betts must have something lined up or he would not jack a job elsewhere in like he has.
Maybe big joe has applied!
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| Quote: bully boy "Denis Betts must have something lined up or he would not jack a job elsewhere in like he has.
Maybe big joe has applied!
There are other reasons for leaving... e.g. would you stay in your job if you'd won the lottery?
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Don't be even more stupid, the bet is not whether Bellamy is our next coach, which is on any view unlikely, but whether you have specific inside information. And nobody believes for one second that you do, so give it a rest as it's embarrasing.'"
O ye of lttle faith!
Be realistic, rugby league isn't exactly a 'behind closed doors' type of sport is it? And its not as if information is ever kept strictly a secret, take for example Brough departing to Huuds, Harris to Bulls, etc, etc.
I'm sure I'm not the only person on here that has heard various peices of information from inside or passed from the inside to the next man and so and so on. Just because you may have been unfortunate not to have head anything more than petty rumours on a message board, it doesn't mean others haven't.
Believe what you want to believe, makes no difference to me. And once the decision is out in the open, I will more than happy to 'pm' you what I knew, how I knew it, provide a little form of evidence to back it up.
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| Quote: Bit_of_bully "O ye of lttle faith!
Be realistic, rugby league isn't exactly a 'behind closed doors' type of sport is it? And its not as if information is ever kept strictly a secret, take for example Brough departing to Huuds, Harris to Bulls, etc, etc.
I'm sure I'm not the only person on here that has heard various peices of information from inside or passed from the inside to the next man and so and so on. Just because you may have been unfortunate not to have head anything more than petty rumours on a message board, it doesn't mean others haven't.'"
Hang on, you're now making [imy[/i point for [ime[/i! You're [iadmitting[/i (I think) that in fact you've just heard rumours/gossip etc.
Quote: Bit_of_bully "Believe what you want to believe, makes no difference to me. And once the decision is out in the open, I will more than happy to 'pm' you what I knew, how I knew it, provide a little form of evidence to back it up.'"
No, you won't. Either you have to respect some sort of confidence, in which case you could never reveal your 'source', or you don't. And there is absolutely no possible reason for you not to post, publicly, "what you know", even if not how you know it or your 'evidence'.
As you haven't, and are floundering to explain why you won't, we all draw our own conclusions. You are free to remedy this. You may be the Bulls' chief lawyer, or the Prophet Isaiah, but nobody believes you, and you say you don't care, so everyone's happy.
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Hang on, you're now making [imy[/i point for [ime[/i! You're [iadmitting[/i (I think) that in fact you've just heard rumours/gossip etc.
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No matter what source it comes from, is it all not just rumours?
For example, if player A was to tell player B who was then to tell me would you class that as a good source or merely a rumour?
You decide.
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| Quote: Bit_of_bully "No matter what source it comes from, is it all not just rumours?
For example, if player A was to tell player B who was then to tell me would you class that as a good source or merely a rumour?
You decide.'"
Henry Paul - he was a good sauce.
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| Quote: Bit_of_bully "No matter what source it comes from, is it all not just rumours?
For example, if player A was to tell player B who was then to tell me would you class that as a good source or merely a rumour? '"
Oh, pack it in, now. If I claimed Hood had assured me that Dale Winton was our next coach, that is not a rumour, it is a factual report of a specific conversation with a specific individual who is clearly in a position to know. Of course, I could be lying about what Hood said, and of course, Hood could be lying to me. Neither of which makes the factual account a "rumour". It may be the truth, or it may be a lie, but it is ridiculous to call it a "rumour". It is a "report", which is capable of being checked.
If however I don't divulge my source, then it is neither a rumour nor a good source. It may be to you, but as we don't know your alleged source nor, in this case, even what your alleged source said, then it is just one more of millions of internet claims made daily by folk who claim to be "in the know", but of whom 99.9% are, as you know, lying. That still leaves a small proportion who might be telling the truth, but nobody will ever believe them, cos even if something they claimed to "know" comes to pass, it could easily just have been a lucky guess and, in the majority of cases, was.
The only avenue for someone wanting to leak info without disclosing sources is to gain a reputation for consistently being right.
Quote: Bit_of_bully "You decide.'"
Well, I checked our squad and I can't see we have any players called either 'A' or 'B', so back into the "pointless claims" drawer you go. And really, if the best you can do is to say "it will NOT be Bellamy" then I wouldn't bother. Anyone could guess that, about any coach on the planet, and by definition the vast majority of them will be right.
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