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Sykes got what he deserved, no more, no less. Can't see the point of an appeal.

The Senior decision however is ridiculous. What was "unintentional"? Do his legs often wildly flail about in huge arcing kicks involuntarily? Was he having a fit? The kick was in fact 100% intentional. Obviously he didn't "intend" to land the kick on the head - but that's only because he lashed out recklessly, not giving a flying fook what or who was in the way, and knowing full well there were certainly defenders in close attendance.

A fine if he had luckily just kicked fresh air. However as he made contact with a player's head, it had to be a ban.

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Not when you clearly must know where the bodies are buried...

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Rubbish. 2 other players were on Senior's top half, 1 (O'brotherinlaw?) was laid across his head, so he had no idea where Tomkins was. It's a completely normal action to kick your legs out to try & dislodge players from your top half. I have played in games where it has happened, more than once, & a penalty not given. Sykes was a horrendous tackle, if it had been intentional he could have been looking at 6 matches. As could Senior.

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How can you tell if it was intentional or not? Sure perhaps he didn't intend to knock someone out by kicking them in the face, but he definately intended to kick his legs about in the air at face height. What did he imagine was going to happen?

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Quote: tigertot "Rubbish. 2 other players were on Senior's top half, 1 (O'brotherinlaw?) was laid across his head, so he had no idea where Tomkins was. It's a completely normal action to kick your legs out to try & dislodge players from your top half. I have played in games where it has happened, more than once, & a penalty not given. Sykes was a horrendous tackle, if it had been intentional he could have been looking at 6 matches. As could Senior.'"


Indeed.

It doesn't surprise me that it only took a few posts before the anti-Leeds hysteria set in, despite the thread being about Sykes.

Did I imagine Brent Webb getting a ban a few weeks ago and failing in his appeal? Apparently so.

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Quote: debaser "How can you tell if it was intentional or not? Sure perhaps he didn't intend to knock someone out by kicking them in the face, but he definately intended to kick his legs about in the air at face height. What did he imagine was going to happen?'"


Face height being 3 feet off the ground in this case, just where you would expect it.

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Quote: tigertot "Face height being 3 feet off the ground in this case, just where you would expect it.'"


So what was he trying to do? Having your feet 3 feet off the ground helps you to get up does it?

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Quote: Exeter Rhino "Indeed.

It doesn't surprise me that it only took a few posts before the anti-Leeds hysteria set in, despite the thread being about Sykes.

Did I imagine Brent Webb getting a ban a few weeks ago and failing in his appeal? Apparently so.'"

Webb has a long history of wild head shots (often completely missed by the officials) so it's hardly a shock that it eventually caught up with him. Leaving aside the kicking out, when Senior starts getting pinged for his regular obstruction occasionally then I'll start believing there is a god.

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Quote: tigertot "Face height being 3 feet off the ground in this case, just where you would expect it.'"

There might (or might not) be many faces at around 3 feet from the ground but I can think of other, rather painful areas, I wouldn't want to get kicked in, particularly be a great big lummox like Senior. icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Bulliac "There might (or might not) be many faces at around 3 feet from the ground but I can think of other, rather painful areas, I wouldn't want to get kicked in, particularly by a great big lummox like Senior.
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Let's get one thing straight. Senior wasn't "doing what we all do", he commited an offence by kicking out in the manner he did, and has been up before the beak and fined. The debate is only whether or not he should have been banned too.

It is therefore tigertot who is talking "rubbish" to bizarrely claim "It's a completely normal action". AFAIK you don't get called up to the disciplinary and fined for "normal action". I know what tigers is referring to, but it sure as hell doesn't involve a wild, arcing kick in the air, reckless as to whether it lands on an adjacent player or not.

And what's "three feet" got to do with it? Don't you notice that sometimes not every player on the field is actually standing straight up? E.g. in the ruck? Plus, what if it had been Burrow? (Sorry take that back, would've missed).

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if all the insidents were grade A offences then everyone of the players should have recieved a 1 match ban

some one said earlier leeds and hetherington are too far up the RFLs ar5e that they have only given him a fine

he did kick out and it wasnt a little kick either....full on dirty begger

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Sykes threw someone by the head and has rightly been banned. I can't be bothered ranting about what happened to players at other clubs.

Our task on Sunday has got that bit harder, that's for sure.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Let's get one thing straight. Senior wasn't "doing what we all do",'"


True. he wasn't stood over the players tunnel, plastic pint in hand, wearing RAB glasses, screaming insults at the officials.

Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "he commited an offence by kicking out in the manner he did, '"


No he didn't. The offence was kicking Tomkins in the head. It would have been the same if Tomkins had been chewing grass at the time.

Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "The debate is only whether or not he should have been banned too. '"


He shouldn't, for the reasons stated.

Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "It is therefore tigertot who is talking "rubbish" to bizarrely claim "It's a completely normal action". '"


Kicking your legs out to get defenders off your upper body is a normal action to try & speed up the play the ball or con the official that the defenders are holding down.

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southernwood and orford in the halves for the game against hudds ?
or move menzies there and have wardle in the centres with platt outside him and nero inside rikki

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