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Reardon was at fault for wigans first try, but he has not played for over 12 months prior to this campaign & he is not a winger. He played right wing for the bulls for a short time in his first spell, but made his name at full back & at wire his best performances were at fb. He played centre at west bowling and in his junior days at odsal, so he's not a natural winger & i for one would rather se him at centre or fb.

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Quote: DILLIGAF "I don't think Crookes had a great game to be honest. He was very hit and miss, but I suppose you need to expect that from a young lad. There were a couple of times (and Richards' try was the main one) where I just didn't think it was good enough. He showed promise at other times though, so I wouldn't write him off purely based on that. I think people who thought he had a very good game and should keep his place though probably had some rose tints on (or were only watching the second half
Agree with all that. Crookes did have a difficult job marking Richards and his inexperience was to blame for the try. That said he never gave up and added a bit of zip when he took the ball up.

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Quote: DILLIGAF " I think people who thought he had a very good game and should keep his place though probably had some rose tints on (or were only watching the second half
Don't you think he should be given a run of a few games in the first time and allowed a real chance to show whether he is going to be good enough to be a super league winger?

In my opinion, if Ricky isn't 100% fit next week,I'd throw JC into the first team again!

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Well there's no sense rushing Sheriffe back if he's not 100%
Hamstring injuries can be tricky and if he's not right he could put himself out for a lot longer

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I'm not absolving Reardon from blame but I think some of tries conceded on his wing this season have been team failings. We have been playing a very narrow defense, too narrow at times. On a few occasions he's been isolated marking 2 or 3 players with Nero being 20m further infield.

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Quote: Cibaman "I'm not absolving Reardon from blame but I think some of tries conceded on his wing this season have been team failings. We have been playing a very narrow defense, too narrow at times. On a few occasions he's been isolated marking 2 or 3 players with Nero being 20m further infield.'"

I would agree with that, however on Friday he was nowhere! Nero had Gleeson covered and Orford was sliding across as well. Reardon certainly needs to work on this aspect of his game whilst on the wing.

I still think we need to add to the squad to have a serious chance of a top 4 finish this year. I'd like to see us bring in a winger and perhaps consider moving Reardon into centre where he can get more chances with the ball. He is great at stepping and making a half break so I am sure he could do well at centre.

I sound like a broken record but I still feel we're light in the pack and it will cost us eventually this year. We'll need Sculthorpe to stay fit and come back into the side in good shape. However I just hope he doesn't bring his ill discipline side of his game into the side. We are conceding a lot less penalties this year so far. I'd love to see a Burgess break through and add some real size to our pack, not sure how realistic that is for this year though.

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Quote: Bit_of_bully "Don't you think he should be given a run of a few games in the first time and allowed a real chance to show whether he is going to be good enough to be a super league winger?

In my opinion, if Ricky isn't 100% fit next week,I'd throw JC into the first team again!'"


If Sheriffe isn't fit, then yeah he should get in (assuming Platt isn't back too). What I was referring to was suggestions that he should keep his place even if Sheriffe was back (in place of Reardon or someone else).

I'm not saying he shouldn't be given a chance. I'm not really criticising him, it was a big game and he did 95% of stuff well. All I was saying is suggesting he had a good game was forgetting a couple of things and to not let sentimentality of having talented young players detract from one or two mistakes he did make.

I was one of the people praising Crookes last year after he got in and was really unlucky to get injured. He was playing excellently at Wakefield before he went down. Just trying to make sure people don't get too carried away icon_wink.gif

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Thats about the 4th or 5th time Reardon has switched off in defence in matchs, no wonder the Pies were targetting his side after the first woeful lapse.
Being cynical if that had been Platty the Muppets that don't like him would have been on here slavering for his head! Well I suspect Reardon has put his place up for grabs next week if Platty plays.

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Quote: DILLIGAF "I was one of the people praising Crookes last year after he got in and was really unlucky to get injured. He was playing excellently at Wakefield before he went down. Just trying to make sure people don't get too carried away
I agree

My mate started saying that Crookes isn't going to make it, on Friday night. I asked him how he could possibly say that after all the exposure we've had to him. I also said, I don't know if he's going to be good or bad, its too early to make that call. We saw a bit of both last night

First half,Wigan were on the ascendancy, Pat Richards was a handful (although I did say 'It's not like he's marking Lesley Vainikolo' when Crookes was brushed aside). In the second half he did a good job and looks like he could be a good runner

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Reardon is a good player but he's NOT a winger. His positioning is terrible. In today's game, the wing is a very specialist position and Reardon hasn't adapted to it.

On saying that, he's a very good player and has had some great performances at full back. I would therefore switch him to full back and put Halley on the wing. This isn't to say that Halley isn't a good full-back, he clearly is, but since we are short of quality wingers, for the sake of the team, Halley should move to a position where he has shown he can cope.

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Quote: Bully_Boxer "I would agree with that, however on Friday he was nowhere! Nero had Gleeson covered and Orford was sliding across as well. Reardon certainly needs to work on this aspect of his game whilst on the wing.

I still think we need to add to the squad to have a serious chance of a top 4 finish this year. I'd like to see us bring in a winger and perhaps consider moving Reardon into centre where he can get more chances with the ball. He is great at stepping and making a half break so I am sure he could do well at centre.

I sound like a broken record but I still feel we're light in the pack and it will cost us eventually this year. We'll need Sculthorpe to stay fit and come back into the side in good shape. However I just hope he doesn't bring his ill discipline side of his game into the side. We are conceding a lot less penalties this year so far. I'd love to see a Burgess break through and add some real size to our pack, not sure how realistic that is for this year though.'"


Could'nt agree more with all of the above, as regards a Burgess breaking through i dont see why not, Sam was 17 when he got his first chance & physically, due to their genes, they all look like they develop quickly too, which is always my concern with younger players.

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Quote: el toro "Reardon was at fault for wigans first try, but he has not played for over 12 months prior to this campaign & he is not a winger. He played right wing for the bulls for a short time in his first spell, but made his name at full back & at wire his best performances were at fb. He played centre at west bowling and in his junior days at odsal, so he's not a natural winger & i for one would rather se him at centre or fb.'"


It's a fair point to say he's moved around a bit but he is an ex GB winger so we can't [ireally[/i say he isn't used to (or potentially, good at) the position. We've been lucky with injuries (except for Rikki) so far, and we've still got Platty to come back, so he will also come into the mix for a centre/winger berth. Hopefully we'll have some decent competition for all these positions.

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Next week I'd put Crookes on Nero's wing and Sheriffe (if fit) or if not Platt on Sykes' wing. Give Reardon a week to train hard and find some form (he looked good in the friendlies).

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Quote: Ewwenorfolk "Next week I'd put Crookes on Nero's wing and Sheriffe (if fit) or if not Platt on Sykes' wing. Give Reardon a week to train hard and find some form (he looked good in the friendlies).'"


For now I'd leave things alone and change very little to be honest. I think Reardon has done ok with ball in hand and deserves a bit longer to get into his stride. Don't forget the guy has hardly played any Rugby in the last 18 months and is now back in position he hasn't played for a long time.

I'm not sure Wing is his ideal position but I think he has enough quality to do a very decent job there for us. We have won 3 on the bounce with a lot of new players still finding their feet, no sense in making any unforced changes right now IMO.

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Quote: Bully_Boxer "For now I'd leave things alone and change very little to be honest. I think Reardon has done ok with ball in hand and deserves a bit longer to get into his stride. Don't forget the guy has hardly played any Rugby in the last 18 months and is now back in position he hasn't played for a long time.

I'm not sure Wing is his ideal position but I think he has enough quality to do a very decent job there for us. We have won 3 on the bounce with a lot of new players still finding their feet, no sense in making any unforced changes right now IMO.'"

I suppose you're right, but when the ball was being shipped out by Wigan and I glanced at Reardon it was an Oh no, not again moment icon_lol.gif

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