IMO Wayne Godwin made a prat of himself at the end celebrating like we'd one the Grad final.

The impression I got was that him and Langley were taken aback by the support. And to be fair, I don't blame them. It's not that often you get decent vocal support for the Bulls!

Sames, although I dont think they knew the other result. They were clearly very emotional.

Come on Red, give the guy a break, he and the rest tried their hardest out there and we're happy they won and keen to show their appreciation for the support they recieved.

I agree with that because he looked really dejected when they;dd all spoken and started leaving the pitch.

Godwin tends to be one of the first over every time and he's proved to me that he's the starting hooker next year with L'estrange spotting him.

I've been a Godwin critic, but he plays with a lot of passion for sure. He's played really well latley and he should get the starting spot next season.

Not doubting the effort just the massive overreaction.

OK, Fair enough. I think you're a little harsh though.

Rikki was jumping about as well. But give the lads the benefit of the doubt. That was a hard-thought game and if anything it relfects well upon them that they were so focused on the game that they had not picked up on what was happening at Knowsley Road.

So come the final hooter they didn't know what had happened at Saints.

I don't reckon Rikki did, straight away. I didn't notice Godwin.

By the way, where are my props for predicting

1. This season had one final kick in the balls in store for us.
2. That we would miss the play-offs by the point we dropped in the final second of the very first game.

Well? Derren Brown has nothing on me.

Didn't look like Langley and Godwin did. There was nothing shown on the screen from what I saw and I'd be surprised if they heard the announcement.

I agree to some degree as people but Hull started well and were at home.

I thought you could tell Langley and Godwin didn't know the score cause both went from over excited to slow clapping and glum faces pretty quickly when the rest of the team came over.

Watch Menzies interview, you could tell he didn't know till Bill told him. It seemed that Bill assumed he knew as well. That's how i took it anyway.

I knew you couldn't rely on this St Helens team. Just not the same team of previous seasons and were without their only truly decent prop this season.

But give me OTT passion in a player any day of the week over some boring Newton type player who never really looked like he wanted to be a Bulls player but was a professional all the same.

I don't think they did. I don't think many of the players did by the way they came over first time, and then came over the second time looking more despondent.
I didn't hear any announcement. Was there one?

I think that was more to do with Hull starting very well, like they wanted to make a point, we didn't have much possession in the first 20. And I stand by the thought that that application and desire last night would have been enough in a few games this year to turn narrow losses into wins, (cas home and away, salford away, celtic home, quins home [icould [/ihave gone the other way with the effort and desire put in last night, that could have meant 10 more points) which would have seen us in the playoffs with room to spare, but its academic anyway now.