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Quote: AndreaB "I know that. He still has a long way to go though.
Picking a player up and dumping him over the line is against the rules. He should know that. To do it so close to the opposition line is a stupid thing to do. He has a tendency to brain-fart which he needs to stamp out of his game if he is to improve.'"


I wasnt sure about that, i didnt think the tackle was complete so would that not allow him to challenge the player

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I'll hold my hand up - have booed him in the past but these days am getting behind all the players, they need it icon_wave.gif

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Quote: leedsmetbull1 "I wasnt sure about that, i didnt think the tackle was complete'"


It wasn't. He just laid down.

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Quote: debaser "It wasn't. He just laid down.'"


possibly voluntary tackle then?

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Quote: leedsmetbull1 "possibly voluntary tackle then?'"
If the rule was taken as they are written it should have been a voluntary tackle.

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Quote: leedsmetbull1 "possibly voluntary tackle then?'"


That's exactly what I thought.

He was either not held - in which case lying there was a clear opportunity for one player to legally pick him up.

or,

he gave up the tackle, and prior to Platt picking him up, he should have been penalised as you rightly point out for a voluntary tackle.

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Quote: leedsmetbull1 "possibly voluntary tackle then?'"


Definate voluntary tackle. It should have been our penalty or at least our scrum. Another one of Bentham's obscure decisions.

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Tackle rules for those who don't seem to know them.

11.2) A player in possession is tackled:

a) When he is held by one or more opposing players and the ball or the hand or arm holding the ball comes into contact with the ground.
b) When he is held by one or more opposing players in such a manner that he can make no further progress and cannot part with the ball.
c) When, being held by an opponent, the tackled player makes it evident that he has succumbed to the tackle and wishes to be released in order to play-the-ball.
d) When he is lying on the ground and an opponent places a hand on him.

11.3) Once a player in possession has been tackled it is illegal for any player to move or try to move him from the point where the tackle is effected.

I think in this situation 11.2) d) and 11.3) say it all.

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Voluntary tackle rules?

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It wasn't a voluntary tackle.
For it to be classed as a voluntary, Hodgson would have had to go down to the floor, get up and then play the ball without a bulls player laying a finger on him.
Brett was still on the floor when Platt picked him up and threw him over the line. Had he left him to get up and play it, then yes it would have been a voluntary.

Hope that helped.

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Voluntary tackle.

A player in possession shall not deliberately and
unnecessarily allow himself to be tackled by
voluntarily falling to the ground when not held by an
opponent. If a player drops on a loose ball he shall
not remain on the ground waiting to be tackled if he
has time to regain his feet and continue play.

I think the most inportant part of that is 'if he has time to regain his feet and continue play'.

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Quote: Three-Legged-Race "Voluntary tackle.

A player in possession shall not deliberately and
unnecessarily allow himself to be tackled by
voluntarily falling to the ground when not held by an
opponent. If a player drops on a loose ball he shall
not remain on the ground waiting to be tackled if he
has time to regain his feet and continue play.

I think the most inportant part of that is 'if he has time to regain his feet and continue play'.'"



He had time to have a cup of tea.

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Obviously the only person in charge of the game for such matters dissagrees with you or he would have awarded a penalty to The Bulls.

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Platt has been better recently. His problem now will be playing on the same wing as Sheriffe. I would argue that had Platt been dropped earlier instead of just ignoring his problems it would have been better for him and the Team and he would probably be a better player now. Trouble is we've left it a bit late to sort Worincey and Sheriffe out with spells in the reserves.
Suggestion for next season. Anybody cosistantly underperforming gets spelled in the reserves sooner rather than later. Crossing fingers and hoping they will get better doesn't work....

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