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Quote: AaronBull "I do not see how sacking the coach would suddenly see 2000 people think about coming back.. are that many really staying away because of McNamara?'"
I think the point being made is that the club would at last be showing some ambition which hasn't been obvious for a while now.

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Quote: redeverready "I think the point being made is that the club would at last be showing some ambition which hasn't been obvious for a while now.'"


The question is can we show ambition under McNamara? I think the key to the answer will be in next seasons signings, whether they are world class, young bright prospects or Michael Platt types.

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Quote: Ewwenorfolk "The question is can we show ambition under McNamara? I think the key to the answer will be in next seasons signings, whether they are world class, young bright prospects or Michael Platt types.'"
Fcku sake not that one again.

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Quote: Ewwenorfolk "The question is can we show ambition under McNamara? I think the key to the answer will be in next seasons signings, whether they are world class, young bright prospects or Michael Platt types.'"

I though we were going to be good once we had Lesley's salary available, the Hape's salary, then Iestyn's salary.

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Quote: rugbyreddog "I though we were going to be good once we had Lesley's salary available, the Hape's salary, then Iestyn's salary.'"


Some of the problem is what's available.
Money or no money you can only buy what is available.

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Quote: redeverready "I think the point being made is that the club would at last be showing some ambition which hasn't been obvious for a while now.'"


So sacking McNamara would show ambition?
I'd say quite the opposite. I think it would be short sighted and knee jerk.

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Quote: Wigan Bull "Some of the problem is what's available.
Money or no money you can only buy what is available.'"
Thorman, Webster, Dobson, Hodgson, Whatuira, Galea, Newton, Walker, Hicks, Gafa, Chase, Bell, Howell, Faumuina, Faimu are all players in our price range who have all joined other super clubs. So there was players available who would have been an improvement on aspects of the squad.

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Quote: Wigan Bull "So sacking McNamara would show ambition?
I'd say quite the opposite. I think it would be short sighted and knee jerk.'"

I know our reactions are slow but a tap on the knee should show a response quicker than three years. I am not saying he should go or not but three years of steady decline is not knee jerk. If leeds sacked Mclennan or Saints sacked Potter that would be knee jerk

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Quote: Wigan Bull "So sacking McNamara would show ambition?
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Yes it would. It would that they knew the current results aren't acceptable.
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I'd say quite the opposite. I think it would be short sighted and knee jerk.'"
Short sighted. So the level of performances over he last 18 months doesn't have any thing to do with it. A record of 10 wins from the last 29 games is good enough reason on it's own.

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Quote: rugbyreddog "What are the clubs responsibilities in the current fiasco.'"


Do keep up! Nothing is the answer.

So far our plight has been blamed on Nobby, Iestyn, Caisley, the lack of the OSV, the British Immigration board and Stuart Cummings.

The club appear to be blameless for some reason.

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Quote: Ewwenorfolk "The question is can we show ambition under McNamara? I think the key to the answer will be in next seasons signings, whether they are world class, young bright prospects or Michael Platt types.'"


I thought we said he'd be judged on this season, his players e.t.c

If you judge him on this season....taxi anyone?

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So far I'd say McNamara isn't delivering. We always knew it would be a long re-building job but we've yet to see any real evidence of the first team being re-built. Instead we've seen steady decline.

2009 will be his third full season in charge. Each year performances have become poorer and more inconsistent. Increasingly the coach seems baffled as to the reasons why the team isn't playing to his instructions. The players seem capable of pulling out the odd good performance but these are becoming the exception rather than the rule. We were inconsistent in 2008 but this season is even worse. If the coaching staff are baffled then surely it's time for a change?

As FA says I think McNamara is a "dead man walking" as far as the head coach job is concerned but the board appear to be standing by him and I don't forsee any change before the end of the season at least.

The thought of Macca in charge again next year doesn't fill me with excitement. While I'll still be going no matter what I can see crowds dropping further while the present decline continues and unfortunately I can see no light at the end of the tunnel as yet.

While a positive OSV result would be fantastic it wouldn't automatically turn things around on the field. The club seems to be playing things very long term at the moment with their eggs very much in the OSV and academy schemes bearing fruit. I just hope we still have a club by the time those things start to pay off.

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Quote: Wigan Bull "So sacking McNamara would show ambition?
I'd say quite the opposite. I think it would be short sighted and knee jerk.'"

Sacking a coach shows neither ambition nor the lack of it. That would be indicated entirely by what happened next. If we were to sack MacNamara and replace him with an existing top coach, that would show ambition. If we were to sack him and replace him with an unproven coach, that would simply show desperation. If we were to sack him and replace him by promoting Basil Richards, well...

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Quote: MDF "Sacking a coach shows neither ambition nor the lack of it. That would be indicated entirely by what happened next. If we were to sack MacNamara and replace him with an existing top coach, that would show ambition. If we were to sack him and replace him with an unproven coach, that would simply show desperation. If we were to sack him and replace him by promoting Basil Richards, well...'"


Well we didn't sack Nobby but...

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Quote: mystic eddie "Well we didn't sack Nobby but...'"

My point exactly. The sacking is nothing. It's the replacing that counts. To replace the promising unproven coach of three years ago who - at least at first team level - has failed to live up to expectation, with a promising unproven coach now, would be a knee-jerk of the highest order and would at best risk and at worst invite another three years of disappointment.

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