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| Halley originally got put there because Platt had an absolute shocker, he played a brilliant game against Leeds and hasn't had too many errors since. Platt played well in centre, but I can't see him getting in again unless Halley gets really off form or if somebody is injured.
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| Consensus of opinion seems to be to have Halley at FB (with which I agree at the moment).
However, where does this leave Platt?
Centre? Certainly at the moment PS & CN would be my first choice.
Wing? He certainly wouldn't get in ahead of Semi, maybe ahead of Rikki?
After signing him for three years, there must be some confidence in his ability to play somewhere.
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| I hope somebody wants him in this off season and agrees to be released. Once Sheriffe's ball handling gets better he'll be good there, apart from that he's been doing ok.
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| Quote: tigertot "Webb has much more in attack, not necessarily direct pace. He does tend to have a better defence in front of him than Halley which disguises his own vulnerability in defence.'"
Comes with experience of playing in that position. Knowing where to position yourself, running good lines and popping up at the right time in support. Halley will learn all this over time.
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| Quote: Wigan Bull "Consensus of opinion seems to be to have Halley at FB (with which I agree at the moment).
However, where does this leave Platt?
Centre? Certainly at the moment PS & CN would be my first choice.
Wing? He certainly wouldn't get in ahead of Semi, maybe ahead of Rikki?
After signing him for three years, there must be some confidence in his ability to play somewhere.'"
utility back? can play to a reasonalble standard at fullback and so a handy player to have in squad to cover injuries if not necessarily a first choice starter. gives us competition for places if nothing else.
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| Quote: Ewwenorfolk "Halley originally got put there because Platt had an absolute shocker, he played a brilliant game against Leeds and hasn't had too many errors since. Platt played well in centre, but I can't see him getting in again unless Halley gets really off form or if somebody is injured.'" That may be the case but his terrible defence equals that out.
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| Quote: redeverready "That may be the case but his terrible defence equals that out.'"
I wouldn't say terrible. Holding up Moore, and has also made a couple of last ditch tackles.
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| Quote: Ewwenorfolk "I wouldn't say terrible. Holding up Moore, and has also made a couple of last ditch tackles.'" He's been trampled over more times than he's stopped people.
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| Quote: redeverready "He's been trampled over more times than he's stopped people.'"
Well, he's not too much worse than Platt and room for improvement. You can't fault his effort though, what about when he stopped Adrian Morley well into the Warrington thrashing.
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| Quote: Ewwenorfolk "Well, he's not too much worse than Platt and room for improvement. You can't fault his effort though, what about when he stopped Adrian Morley well into the Warrington thrashing.'" IMO he didn't Morley was slipping in to the tackle. But that doesn't alter the fact that Maury, Meli, Pryce, JD. JJB have all trampled him these last few games.
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| Quote: redeverready "IMO he didn't Morley was slipping in to the tackle. But that doesn't alter the fact that Maury, Meli, Pryce, JD. JJB have all trampled him these last few games.'"
thats always going to be a problem with a small player tbf. Halley isnt making the really obvious mistakes that platt does and people tend to highlight, but he isnt a massive leap in quality over platt as some of plattys detractors make out. At the moment daves doing enough to keep the fb spot but he's going to have to stay on his toes, as one bad game and it wouldnt be unreasonable to give platt a game.
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| Quote: tigertot "Halley will never be a great FB, he is simply not big enough.'"
Now it all makes sense. You're 4 foot 8 and have an irrational hatred of other little people.
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| Halley looks to have better positional sense so has been taking the ball more often on the full and running it back he's got more space. Platt looks to be out of position too often which contributes to poor decisions as he's under pressure sooner. If he could sort that side of his game I'd say he's a better option at full back. Right now Halley, although he's not error free, isn't making the stupid mistakes and deserves to be in the starting line up.
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| Quote: childofthenorthern "Halley looks to have better positional sense so has been taking the ball more often on the full and running it back he's got more space. Platt looks to be out of position too often which contributes to poor decisions as he's under pressure sooner. If he could sort that side of his game I'd say he's a better option at full back. Right now Halley, although he's not error free, isn't making the stupid mistakes and deserves to be in the starting line up.'"
Perhaps Halley's positional nous is no better than Platt's but he is using his pace to put himself into better positions as needed in developing a defence, and also for running the ball back so gaining ground towards his forwards.
Platt's overall pace is reasonable but pretty poor from a standing start which IMO leaves him exposed to repositioning.
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| Quote: tigertot "Halley will never be a great FB, he is simply not big enough. '"
Hmmmmmm... Read these
Dave Halley 5'11"
Brent Webb 5'10"
Billy Slater 5'10"
Darren Lockyer 5'10"
Clive Churchill 5'9"
Clint Greenshields 5'9"
Yes, you make perfect sense.
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